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 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some Austrian cruisers

 Post subject: Re: Some Austrian cruisers Posted: October 22nd, 2020, 4:52 pm 

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Hi all! Austria's first armoured cruiser: Kaiserin und Königin Maria Theresia. A modestly sized (5.300 ts mean) ship of modest speed (19.5 kts) and modest protection (incomplete 100mm belt and 100mm turrets), but good armament for her size (2x 240mm and 8x 150mm plus 14 47mm), she was best compared ...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some Austrian Battleships

 Post subject: Re: Some Austrian Battleships Posted: October 13th, 2020, 5:39 pm 

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Hi all! This one would have been a very good design, had it appeared about five years earlier: The Erzherzog-Karl-class. Considerably larger than their predecessors of the Habsburg-class, these second-class battleships struck a fine balance between armour (210mm KC), armament (4x 240/40 and 12x 190/...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some British Pre-Dreadnoughts

 Post subject: Re: Some British Pre-Dreadnoughts Posted: October 13th, 2020, 5:36 pm 

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Hgrmph. Posted in wrong topic.

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: Germany - O Class Battlecruiser

 Post subject: Re: Germany - O Class Battlecruiser Posted: October 10th, 2020, 9:22 pm 

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Hi all! First: Unsurprisingly, the drawing is sublime. Kudos. Concur that these would not have made much sense. Still, they are the most promising design of the Z-plan IMHO. They certainly would have been terribly bad surface combatants, but they would have made superb carrier conversions. Greetings...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Germany - Walter Holzapfel

 Post subject: Re: Germany - Walter Holzapfel Posted: October 10th, 2020, 9:17 pm 

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Hi all @Colombamike: The text below the drawing in the Gröner scan says it: 'TR-Satz wechselweise in den eingezeichneten Positionen' translating to 'TT-set alternating between the positions in the drawing' So there indeed was only one TT-set, sometimes mounted forward, sometimes aft. All is cool. BT...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some Austrian Battleships

 Post subject: Re: Some Austrian Battleships Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:16 pm 

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Hi again! Something obscure: The only 'battleship' ever exported by an Austrian Yard to another nation, the Turkish central citadel ironclad Icaliye. At 2.300 tons, Icaliye was actually corvette-sized, but considered part of the battlefleet by Ottoman standards. She had two 234mm guns (forward in th...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some Austrian Battleships

 Post subject: Re: Some Austrian Battleships Posted: October 6th, 2020, 8:53 pm 

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Hi all Austria's step from the ironclad into the pre-dreadnought era: The Monarch-class coastal battleships. Three ships of some 5.600 tons mean, built between 1893 and 1897, named Monarch, Wien and Budapest. Speed (17,5 knots) and protection (the belt was 220 - 270mm Harvey steel) were adequate for...

 Forum: Alternate Universe Designs  Topic: Koko Kyouwakoku (Republic of Koko)

 Post subject: Re: Koko Kyouwakoku (Republic of Koko) Posted: October 1st, 2020, 5:15 pm 

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Hi BB Now I know what you did last summer. Truly remarkable drawings, wow. No wonder you always win these challenges. Sincere thanks for not participating in the last one ;). A pity Koko does not build its own airplanes. The Zero was pretty outdated after 1942. A new fighter available in 1943 would ...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some British Pre-Dreadnoughts

 Post subject: Re: Some British Pre-Dreadnoughts Posted: October 1st, 2020, 5:06 pm 

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Hi all! OK, I started this, so I looked it up. Conway mentions the original armament indeed was Whitworth made, and replaced with British standard ordnance when acquired by the RN. Conway does not mention a larger caliber (317mm instead of 305mm), they just don't mention at all what caliber the new ...

 Forum: Real Designs  Topic: Some Austrian cruisers

 Post subject: Some Austrian cruisers Posted: September 30th, 2020, 9:03 pm 

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Hi all! Austria's only pair of second class protected cruisers: SMS Kaiser Franz Joseph I and Kaiserin Elisabeth. They were ordered as an answer to Italy's Elswick-type cruisers Giovanni Bausan and her home-grown successors. They carried two 240mm guns in barbettes fore and aft, theoretically enabli...
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