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 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 6:27 pm 

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heuhen wrote: *
that is what I call: "being British...!"
The Treasury is a vicious and vindictive organization.

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 5:38 pm 

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Do the RN have to budget, one budget for the Normal operation, and a additional budget some are for investment. They do. However the MoD understands that there is nothing more permanent then a temporary solution. And any purchase of an interim Ship to ship missile would be seen as a direct threat t...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 5:00 pm 

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Thought the RN was withdrawing the surface Harpoon from 2019 onwards? in which case there will be no ship to ship weapon if they get problem with finding replacement, just over the pond, we have a plug in weapon... in Norway NSM, it's developed and tested so whats the point of using unnecessary res...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 3:12 pm 

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As far as more complex weapons go i imagine that the PDMS will be the converted Seawolf cells ripped directly from the T23s rather then the new build system planned for the T26s. And if any Anti-ship missile is fitted it will be the same tired old block one Harpoon that the T45s and T23s carry. Tho...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 12:34 pm 

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I think any system which is not currently in RN inventory will be automatically eliminated from consideration on T31 in an effort to keep to the hard price cap. I also think that gas turbine propulsion is out as well in favour of CODAD. And keeping the 4.5 for the first batch is not as bad as it may...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 9th, 2017, 10:33 am 

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rifleman2 wrote: *
from what i've see the t26 is getting a 5in gun as BaE are looking to withdraw support for the 4.5
they are

we were talking about the T31s

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 8th, 2017, 11:12 pm 

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250 mil for those ships... I belive that when I see it, we used approx 400 mil * 5 for the Norwegians, and they was build in Spain, although we had everything new. Fun fact one or several British shipyard was in the Norwegian frigate competition, the last round had, 1 British, 1 German, 1 Spanish a...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 8th, 2017, 10:30 pm 

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As to what the T31s will eventually look like, i imagine that in a futile attempt to keep down costs they will end up using as many systems ripped from the outgoing T23s as possible, so Artisan radar, 30mm Close in guns, a number of CAMM-N. The savings will probably come from deleting any "new" equ...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 8th, 2017, 10:17 pm 

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The T23s were at the point of design expected to spend basically their entire lives towing sonar arrays across the GIUK gap, and as such were expected to be utterly shagged after 20 or so years. The Reds however proved to not be up to the task and pussed out early, leaving the T23s with plenty of hu...

 Forum: Never-Built Designs  Topic: New RN Frigates

 Post subject: Re: New RN Frigates Posted: September 8th, 2017, 7:29 pm 

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So any thoughts on the proposed 31e's? Depends entirely on how much capability they can crowbar into 250 million, and if the other shipyards are as big a ripoff merchant as BAES is. Plus their plan to buy a bunch of ships with the intention of selling them onto other navies and then order a second ...
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