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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 4th, 2012, 8:26 pm
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Ther'e cute eswube, very nice.I always thought it was harder to draw small ships than large ones.


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 4th, 2012, 9:14 pm
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Very nice and cute eswube. And yes I also believe that drawing small vessels or boats is harder then the big ships, so my admirations eswube :)

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 5th, 2012, 8:28 am
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Thank You, Bombhead and Novice. It's always a pleasure to hear such praise from so great SB-artists like You. :)


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 5th, 2012, 8:52 pm
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I can just submit Bombhead and Novice's praises, well done :D

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 11th, 2012, 9:40 pm
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Thank You KimWerner. :)

By the mid 1970s missile boats of the pr.205 (NATO: Osa) and torpedo boats of the pr.664 (NATO: Wisla) were already becoming outdated. Their planned replacement were missile/gun boats of the Project 665, but due to Soviet pressure the program was cancelled in 1978. As a stop-gap measure it was decided to buy four large missile boats/missile corvettes (in Poland that category of ships is called: Mały Okręt Rakietowy - plur. Małe Okręty Rakietowe - lit. Small Rocket Warship) of the new pr.1241 Molniya (NATO: Tarantul), of which the Polish Navy was the first export customer. First ship was delivered in december 1983, followed by second in march 1984. At that point the East German Navy took precedence in deliveries (it was also partially caused by Poland's economic difficulties at the time) and the remaining two - slightly different - ships arrived in february 1988 and february 1989 respectively. All ships were given unusual for our navy, very "socialist" names (in order of delivery): Górnik (Miner), Hutnik (Metallurgist), Metalowiec (Metal-Worker) and Rolnik (Farmer). All four ships served in the 3rd Warship Flotilla (3 Flotylla Okrętów) in Gdynia-Oksywie. Górnik and Hutnik were decommissioned in 2005, leaving only Metalowiec and Rolnik still in service - though not for long.

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 11th, 2012, 10:24 pm
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A fine addition to a fine thread.

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 28th, 2012, 8:55 pm
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In the 1983 Warsaw Pact (read: Soviet Ministry of Defence) decided that small missile boats of the Project 205 Tsunami (NATO: Osa) in the navies of USSR, Poland, East Germany and Bulgaria will be replaced by new, common type of craft designed by East Germans and armed in Kh-35 Uran missiles. Initial series were to be built by VEB Peenewerft shipyard in Wolgast (GDR) while later also by Polish Stocznia Północna (Northern Shipyard) in Gdańsk (and most likely also by Soviet shipyards). Prototype boat of the Project 151, the "Sassnitz" begun sea trials in 1988 and was officially commissioned in the Volksmarine der DDR on july 31 1990. At the same time at least six other ships were at various stages of completion (three more for East Germany and three for Poland).

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Shortly before the unification of Germany missiles and associated equipment were removed and returned to Soviet custody. For a some time "Sassnitz" served in the Bundesmarine and in 1993 was transferred to Bundesgrenzschütz-See (Federal Border Guard-Sea - West German Coast Guard) and together with third ship of the series(ex-"Ostseebad Binz") underwent extensive rebuilt into patrol vessels of the P50 type: BG22 Neustrelitz and BG23 Bad Düben. In 2005 Bundesgrenzschütz was renamed Bundespolizei (Federalpolice) and both vessels had their pennant numbers changed to BP22 and BP23 respectively.

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Second ship of the series (ex-"Ostssebad Sellin") was converted into armament test ship.

As mentioned before, fast attack craft of the Project 151 were also to enter service in the Polish Navy, classified as Project 660. Initial plans called for 8 boats to be commissioned (possibly more), hovewer by the end of 1990 only 3 hulls were delivered from Peenewerft and work on them in Gdańsk was hampered by delays in deliveries of necessary equipment from the Soviet Union. After the unification of Germany Polish Navy attempted to buy remaining hulls, but German authorities were putting exorbitant price demands and therefore these plans had to be dropped (hulls were later scrapped).
Three Polish craft were commissioned in 1992 (ORP Orkan), 1994 (ORP Piorun) and 1995 (ORP Grom), hovewer Soviet Union declined to supply Kh-35 missiles and for over a decade these ships served without their main armament.

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In 2000 it was decided to modify all three ships, to allow them to use Swedish RBS-15 missiles (although the missiles weren't actually ordered by that time). After much delay all three ships were refitted by 2006 (getting, among others, new mast and electronic equipment). In the same year RBS-15 missiles were oficially ordered - RBS-15 Mk2 as an interim measure and RBS-15 Mk3 - delivered since 2011 - as ultimate equipment.

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Note: As there could be some doubts about certain parts, I'd like to explain certain things:
- radar on top of modified Orkan's is Sea Giraffe drawn by me, as the only radar of that type I could find in Parts Sheets (for Royal Navy) was definitely some other model;
- grid constructions on which RBS-15 missiles are placed were drawn by me and are representation of those actually found on Polish ships;
- boxes of RBS-15 Mk2 were taken from Parts Sheets, but those of the RBS-15 Mk3 were again drawn by me, as I could found only very old ones that looked... well, I'd better not write what I think of them. ;)
If there are some better, "official" renderings of those parts I will gladly use them. Otherwise I will be equally glad to add these elements to Parts Sheet Discussion thread.


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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 28th, 2012, 9:38 pm
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Excellent stuff eswube. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 28th, 2012, 9:47 pm
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Now these are some nice small ships. Good job!
(I shall also add that Neustrelitz and Bad Düben were used in the poplar german TV seried Küstenwache/Coast Guard for the role of the lead ship Albatross II)

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 28th, 2012, 9:59 pm
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Excellent job lad, all those details ...

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