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Author:  Colombamike [ December 14th, 2020, 11:06 am ]
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@Karle94:
- Your forget the 4 single (2 on each side) 120mm starshell gun amid-ships on all your drawings
- By 1940: IMAM Ro.43 aircrafts carried...=>replaced in 1942/1943 by Reggiane Re.2000...
- Yours drawings look 75/85 % finished (lot of Small details lacking)
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Author:  Karle94 [ December 15th, 2020, 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Littorio Class: So Much Potential

You are right about the 120mm star shell guns. I got too caught up with the camos I forgot about them. In any case, I've added them in both the unshielded version (1940-42) and the shielded version (43.)

From what I understand is that the Re.2000 was used as a fighter, not as a scout, and that the ships may have carried one, and two Ro.43s. I have yet to see a source stait completely one, or the other. Problem with the Re.2000 was that it was entirely a land based aircraft.

Author:  Colombamike [ December 15th, 2020, 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Littorio Class: So Much Potential

Karle94 wrote: *
From what I understand is that the Re.2000 was used as a fighter, not as a scout, and that the ships may have carried one, and two Ro.43s.
I have yet to see a source stait completely one, or the other. Problem with the Re.2000 was that it was entirely a land based aircraft.

Be Much More serious, in your own research

1st operationnal test of Re.2000 onboard Littorio & Vittorio Venetto in 1942 (16 september 1942 onboard Vittorio Venetto ?)
1st experimental trials test at sea of Re.2000, onboard Giuseppe Miraglia seaplane tender, september 1941 ?

By (september ?) 1943:
- Vittorio Veneto: 2 x Re.2000 + 1 x IMA Ro.43 (1st Re.2000 carried by september 1942)
in 1940-1943, IMA Ro.43 aircrafts number n° 921, 922, 923

- Littorio: 1 x Re.2000 + 2 x IMA Ro.43
in 1940-1943, IMA Ro.43 aircrafts number n° 911, 912, 913

- Roma: 2 x Re.2000 + 1 x IMA Ro.43 (1st Re.2000 carried by late 1942 ?)
in 1942, 3 x IMA Ro.43 aircrafts number n° 931, 932, 933

Probable ? wrong (date) ? drawing from Enrr
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Author:  Karle94 [ December 16th, 2020, 3:22 am ]
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I've repainted the Ro.43s "silver" and added the Re.2000 to the 1943 editions.

Littorio as commissioned in 1940:
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Littorio as she appeared in 1941:
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Littorio as she appeared in 1942:
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Italia as she appeared in 1943:
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Vittorio Veneto as she appeared in 1940:
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Vittorio Veneto as she appeared in 1941:
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Vittorio Veneto as she appeared in 1942:
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Vittorio Veneto as she appeared in 1943:
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Roma as she appeared in 1942:
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Roma as she appeared in 1943:
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Author:  emperor_andreas [ December 17th, 2020, 8:09 am ]
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Awesome job!

Author:  eswube [ December 21st, 2020, 4:55 pm ]
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Great series.

Author:  Hood [ December 22nd, 2020, 10:45 am ]
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Very good to see these attractive ships brought up to date.

Author:  Lazer_one [ December 29th, 2020, 11:14 am ]
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Awesome job but there are some point to fox in the camouflage.
the basic gray isn't a neutral one but it has a little portion of blue
- Littorio March 1941 - the light color is a light green and not a grey
- Italia 1944 (not made) - Full gray with a dark grey block
- Veneto - there are two version of Jume 1941 and August 1941 (plus the comment on light green)
- Veneto as in 1944 full gray with a dark grey block
- Roma 1942 is July 1942
- Roma 1943 is October 1942
- Roma both versions show the wrong side of the ship (are both the mirrored version of the other side - the two sides were not symmetric)
If you want I can provide the detailed versions of all the italian ships based on the book Italian Navy Camouflage 1940-1945

Author:  Karle94 [ December 29th, 2020, 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Littorio Class: So Much Potential

The double fish bone as shown in 41 is green. Might not look like it, but it is. The light grey color does have a smudge of blue in it. What does the 44 camos look like, a block ala KGV and Richelieu? You are right about the Roma being mirrored, as I did not find a good source that would allow me to make a good and accurate camo scheme for her.

Author:  Lazer_one [ December 30th, 2020, 8:08 am ]
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here all the Littorio class

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