Where did you get the paint information on the late war Measure 21? I've been looking for this for sometime for the Essex class. I always thought that the photos had a dark greenish tint.
This page has it, though very easy to miss: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War ... e_measures
In January 1945 BuShips revised its paint formulations due to a shortage of blue pigment, and the realization that tone was far more important than hue in camouflage effect, eliminating the blue-purple shades which had characterized nearly all Navy ship colors whether called "blue" or "gray." The new paints were neutral grays, Navy Gray replacing Navy Blue (but confusingly receiving the designation "5-N" while Navy Blue became "5-NB"), and Deck Gray replacing Deck Blue. Ocean Gray and Haze Gray retained their names but lost their bluish cast. However, the new paints (which were shipped pre-mixed, not as tinting paste) were generally only available in stateside yards, while ships repainted at forward bases continued to use the older bluish colors. Moreover, for Measure 22 (but not 12 or 21), Navy Blue was still prescribed until existing stocks were exhausted.
There's a lot of ambiguity around the exact colors most of the ships were painted in by 1945; the availability of the new paint seems to have been limited (in the Pacific) to the west coast yards, with ships refitting at the forward bases using up existing stocks of the blue-grey paint. Since most of the photos are in B&W, very difficult to tell what ship had what type of paint (unfortunately) - textual evidence/inferment are usually required. Since NASHVILLE refitted at Puget Sound in March 1945, it's safe to assume the ship was repainted from its earlier dazzle pattern into flat grey Measure 21 using the new Navy Grey (5-N #7).
Naturally these are "best guesses" but unless color photos surface we will likely never know for sure.
Brilliant, just brilliant!!! Hope you will do 1-2 more
, like Brooklyn in ms 12 mod early war.
I really like the look of the early wartime ships but finding configuration references has been difficult. For BROOKLYN, NASHVILLE, and PHILADELPHIA, I only have portside photos (not enough to correctly draw the Ms12mod pattern, which was different on either side of the ship). If anyone can help me find starboard side photos of any of those (and plans showing the unique bridge configurations) I'd give them a shot.
I think Ian have still enough source-refs for :
- Brooklyn : 1939, may 1942, march-june 1943, 1945 versions
- Philadephia : 1945 (Ms 21) version
- Savannah : 1938 version
- Nashville : april 1942 ?, july-august 1943 versions
- Phoenix : august 1943 ?
- Honolulu : september 1945
to come......& maybe much more if needed
it would just have to speed-up the drawing-pace, that's all (for exemple, moving from 1 drawing per month to...one per week)