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Christian 101
Post subject: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: August 12th, 2020, 11:50 pm
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Reformador class frigate

-F101 ARM Benito Juarez

The line of ships SIGMA (Ship Integrated Geometrical Modularity Approach) they are a family of frigates and corvettes classified by size prepared to operate in oceanic waters, under the hand of the DAMEN shipyard, the Mexican Navy anocheced in August 2017 the Patrullera Oceánica de Largo Alcance (Long Range Oceanic Patrol) project or "POLA", the frigate of type 10514 was built in DAMER and ASTIMAR shipyards to be launched by SEMAR in October 2018 under the name "ARM Reformador" with F101, it was finally renamed "Benito Juarez" and assigned in April 2020

The frigate features a patrol boat configuration consisting of:

Thales STIR 1.2 EO Mk2
Thales Smart-S Mk2 3D radar
Thales CAPTAS-2 variable Depth sonar
Indra RIGEL RESM
Indra RIGEL RECM

DL-12T launcher
Bofors 57mm Mk3 cannon
Mk-38 25mm gun
RIM-116 RAM
RGM-84L Harpoon Block 2
MARK-54 Mod
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Christian 101
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: August 24th, 2020, 4:12 am
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-Oaxaca class patrol vessel

-P161 ARM Oaxaca

The objectives for the Oaxaca class are oceanic surveillance, search and rescue operations, support for the civilian population in case of disasters, maritime support and to act as a deterrence against hostile ships and aircraft in low-medium intensity conflicts. Among the main characteristics that stand out of this unit is that it has a helicopter and a speedboat for interception missions, it has great stability and seaworthy capacity that allows it to navigate without any problem under any weather situation.

In class:
P161 ARM Oaxaca (class leader)
P162 ARM Baja California
P163 ARM Independencia
P164 ARM Revolución
P165 ARM Chiapas
P166 ARM Hidalgo
P167 ARM Jalisco
P168 ARM Tabasco

Armament configuration:

OTO Melara 76mm
OTO Melara 30mm
Bofors 57mm L70
M2 12.7mm
M2 Machine gun .50mm
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Christian 101
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: August 24th, 2020, 9:43 pm
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Durango class patrol vessel

-P152 ARM Sonora

Designed and built in the SEMAR Shipyards and commissioned in 2000. It carries a helicopter, which can be perched on a platform at the stern and can be stored in a hangar within this vessel. It also uses an interceptor boat, to complete the trinomial operational concept (patrol boat, helicopter, interceptor).

In class:
P151 ARM Durango
P152 ARM Sonora
P153 ARM Guanajuato
P154 ARM Veracruz

Its main configuration consists of:

EOS 450
Bofors MK-3 57mm
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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: August 24th, 2020, 11:31 pm
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First, Sorry

I would say, that there is a lot that is wrong with Durango class and Oaxaca class drawing.

my short list for Oaxaca class:
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/420/file
- I don't see enough change from the original drawing, to justify you'r credit. I would call adding underwater hull not enough change to the drawing.
- After what I can find on the internett, the underwater hull is wrong.

my short list for class:
- color totally wrong
- underwater hull wrong
- shading is.... yeah not good
- shape of aft deck, helicopter deck, is wrong.
- missing hatches bellow helicopter deck
- funnel shape wrong
- ship and parts should have matching color.


I suggest you study all the picture you can find on the internett. if you can't find underwater hull pictures/drawings, then there is no need to speculate and draw an fantasy underwater hull


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Rodondo
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: August 26th, 2020, 4:27 am
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Hi Christian 101,

I'm guessing you're basing that Oaxaca drawing off this illustration?
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I think its incorrect, there a lot of generalisations and does not really match what I can see in this pic
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Christian 101
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: February 2nd, 2021, 8:04 am
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heuhen wrote: *
First, Sorry

I would say, that there is a lot that is wrong with Durango class and Oaxaca class drawing.

my short list for Oaxaca class:
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/420/file
- I don't see enough change from the original drawing, to justify you'r credit. I would call adding underwater hull not enough change to the drawing.
- After what I can find on the internett, the underwater hull is wrong.

my short list for class:
- color totally wrong
- underwater hull wrong
- shading is.... yeah not good
- shape of aft deck, helicopter deck, is wrong.
- missing hatches bellow helicopter deck
- funnel shape wrong
- ship and parts should have matching color.


I suggest you study all the picture you can find on the internett. if you can't find underwater hull pictures/drawings, then there is no need to speculate and draw an fantasy underwater hull
Departing with the aft pier, hatches will be added but I do not know why the shape does not seem correct, the color was taken directly by the dominant tone of this photo [ img ]

Parts like the fireplace will be redrawn and I am now open to advice on shading


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Christian 101
Post subject: Re: Mexican Navy ShipsPosted: February 2nd, 2021, 8:05 am
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Rodondo wrote: *
Hi Christian 101,

I'm guessing you're basing that Oaxaca drawing off this illustration?
[ img ]

I think its incorrect, there a lot of generalisations and does not really match what I can see in this pic
[ img ]
Then just make a few adjustments[ img ]


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