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Author:  Karle94 [ January 12th, 2021, 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
Since my AU has become a treasure trove of never built and otherwise proposed ships I've decided to finish some and post them here. This topic, if you've read the headline is for the Imperial Russian Navy. WW1 shafted a lot of navies really hard. Few as hard as the Russian navy, doubly more so the following Russian civil war. Some of the designs for the Russian navy were quite modest, such as the unfinished battleship Imperator Nikolai I, and the Borodino class of battlecuisers. Others, not so much.

First up is the Izmail, the lead ship of the Borodino class. These are quite well known among shipbucketeers, and as such do not need much backstory.
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Folowing up is a design drawn up by Bubnov in 1914 for a battleship armed with 12x16" guns in three quadrouple turrets. Very ambitious armament, very practical ship.
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Next up is the 1917 design for a battleship for the Black Sea. It is armed with 9x16" guns in three triple turrets. Some may recognise this as the inspiration for the Sinop in WoWs.
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A newly finished drawing is Putilov's 1914 design for the ultimate battleship, sort of a Russian "Tillmann" battleship. It is 265m long and armed with 4 of the same quad turrets as the other Bubnov
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Another design is a 1914 design by Putilov for a battleship armed with 12x14" guns in triple turrets in a superfiring layout, most uncommon in Russian designs.
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I also have what I call the three "stages" of the Imperator Nikolai I. One is the original bow, looks exactly the same as the Imperatritsa Mariya class.
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Stage 2; the rebuilt Gangut style ice-breaker bow.
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Stage 3, the proposed alteration of a Borodino style raised focsle to reduce the amount of water shipped over the bow.
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I also did the original Skvortsov 1907 battleship design, not the WoWs design Garlic did:
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These next ones are the four stages of imperial navy cruiser development.

The Maraviev Amurskyy and Admiral Nevelskoy were ordered as turbine training ships with secondary roles as a gun cruiser and a minelayer. The two ships were seized by the Germans (they were being built in Germany) and entered service as Pillau and Elbing.
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The Svetlana class was the first class of modern light cruiser, like the previous design they were also intended for minelaying operations.
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The Amidral Nakhimov class was a slightly enlarged version of the Svetlana class, and shared the same capabilities and appearance.
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Though being destroyers, they were designed to act as pseudo-cruisers in service having a very large battery of 130mm guns.
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Author:  that_person [ January 14th, 2021, 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
Very nice! I personally like these old Russian battleships. Anyone else waiting for someone to make a Sinop out of the 1917 design?
Author:  Karle94 [ January 15th, 2021, 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
I've added the three "stages" of the Nikolai and added the Putilov's 1914 design for the ultimate battleship.

Edit: I've also added the 1914 design by Putilov for a battleship armed with 12x14" guns.
Author:  Rhade [ January 16th, 2021, 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
More Battlebarges... more!
Author:  Hood [ January 16th, 2021, 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
Very nice work.
Author:  Karle94 [ August 19th, 2022, 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
Here's an update to some of the drawings:

Skvortsov 1907 battleship as designed:
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Nikolai as designed:
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Nikolai as revised during construction:
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Nikolai with proposed raised focsle:
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Izmail as laid down:
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1917 Black Sea Battleship:
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Author:  emperor_andreas [ August 19th, 2022, 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
Very nice work!
Author:  eswube [ August 23rd, 2022, 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
That "Knyaz Suvorov" was actually ordered and assigned that name in official Russian documents, or it's just World of Warships? :roll:
Author:  Karle94 [ August 24th, 2022, 6:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
I've no idea honestly. I know WoWs kinda jumbled up the design to better fit the line, such as adding a Gangut bow, raising the guns to add casemates etc.
Author:  eswube [ August 24th, 2022, 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Russian Proposed and Never-Built Capital Ships
So I thought... please, try to use the actual(-ish) names in the future, not WoWs fanciful stand-ins.
In this case I think it will be this one, I guess...
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/9989
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