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Author:  dalamace [ September 29th, 2022, 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
Hello,

I've drawn the Imperial Japanese never-were battlecruiser based on the drawings and technical specifications by Hajime Fukaya. The drawing is based on his specifications given in "Warship International" of 1965, so his accuracy (and mine for that matter) might not be completely correct, so if there're any feedback it would wonderful.

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Thank You
Author:  emperor_andreas [ September 29th, 2022, 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
Very nice work!
Author:  bugsier_060 [ September 30th, 2022, 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
one of the most elegant ships ever constructed. Very fine depiction of this type. In a technical view I wonder that the Japanese didn't use the bulbous bow on this type as well. Think about the Yamato class which was contructed some years before B-65 and was fitted with that bow.
Author:  Karle94 [ September 30th, 2022, 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
It likely would have used a bulbous bow, more similar to American ships.
Author:  bugsier_060 [ September 30th, 2022, 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
Karle94 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 1:03 pm
It likely would have used a bulbous bow, more similar to American ships.
Yes, Karle, this could have well been the case because a "normal" bow would have meant a step backwards in terms of hydrodynamics.
Author:  dalamace [ September 30th, 2022, 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
bugsier_060 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 3:01 pm
Karle94 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 1:03 pm
It likely would have used a bulbous bow, more similar to American ships.
Yes, Karle, this could have well been the case because a "normal" bow would have meant a step backwards in terms of hydrodynamics.
Hajime Fukaya's drawing of the ship did not have a bulbous bow like that of the Yamato-class. And I struggle to remember which American ships have bulbous bows like the Yamato-class either?
Author:  heuhen [ September 30th, 2022, 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
dalamace wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:18 pm
bugsier_060 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 3:01 pm
Karle94 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 1:03 pm
It likely would have used a bulbous bow, more similar to American ships.
Yes, Karle, this could have well been the case because a "normal" bow would have meant a step backwards in terms of hydrodynamics.
Hajime Fukaya's drawing of the ship did not have a bulbous bow like that of the Yamato-class. And I struggle to remember which American ships have bulbous bows like the Yamato-class either?
Probably it would have something similar to Iowa class
Author:  dalamace [ September 30th, 2022, 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
heuhen wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:21 pm
dalamace wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:18 pm
bugsier_060 wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 3:01 pm


Yes, Karle, this could have well been the case because a "normal" bow would have meant a step backwards in terms of hydrodynamics.
Hajime Fukaya's drawing of the ship did not have a bulbous bow like that of the Yamato-class. And I struggle to remember which American ships have bulbous bows like the Yamato-class either?
Probably it would have something similar to Iowa class
The design of the B-65's bow was more similar to the Agano or the Taiho imo.
Author:  Karle94 [ September 30th, 2022, 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
No American ships had bulbous bows like that of the Yamato, plenty of ships, Taiho included had American style bulbous bows.
Author:  bugsier_060 [ October 1st, 2022, 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Japanese B-65 Battlecruiser
dalamace wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:26 pm
heuhen wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:21 pm
dalamace wrote: *September 30th, 2022, 6:18 pm


Hajime Fukaya's drawing of the ship did not have a bulbous bow like that of the Yamato-class. And I struggle to remember which American ships have bulbous bows like the Yamato-class either?
Probably it would have something similar to Iowa class
The design of the B-65's bow was more similar to the Agano or the Taiho imo.
Of course Dalamace, the bulbous bow of Yamato/Musashi was absolutely unique. Though the Germans (Bismarck/Tirpitz/Scharnhorst/Gneisenau), the Italians (Roma class) and the Americans (Missouri class etc.) had a so called "pear-shaped" bow or also called "drop shaped" bow (with slight differences per country), which was at least an improvement compared with the old fashioned bow. The Germans developed this bow type already in the 20ies and applied them to the steamers "Bremen" und "Europe". Also the "Taiho" had it, you mentioned it. But the bow of Yamato/Musashi was far ahead of its time as the discoveries of the wrecks revealed.
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