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Author:  ALVAMA [ May 5th, 2011, 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Huge BB
A few things first:

- Design of 1922-1924
- How long did it took to draw? 6 days.
- It's drawn to the only online source from the Japanese archives
- I have designed the masts with sources of real Japanese BBs
- it's stupid but real
- no fake no joke
- don't comment it can't float, shot, sail whatever
- It's crasy, but also we talk about art-wise not only design
- name is fictional, but the designed not

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Author:  jabba [ May 5th, 2011, 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Huge BB
Truly insane! (In a good way of course!)

Just imagine a single broadside salvo. Every gun on one side firing at once would probably capsize the ship, then the momentum would cause it to continue turning and right itself, whist creating some kind of tsunami behind it. I would love to see that!

I'm not surprised it took you six days Alvama!
Author:  Thiel [ May 5th, 2011, 4:56 pm ]
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Holy smokes it huge!
Btw, didn't you post it somewhere else as well? I'm fairly certain that I've seen it before.
Author:  Portsmouth Bill [ May 5th, 2011, 5:05 pm ]
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Gadzooks :o What a monster :shock: But no anti aircaft guns? So made for Billy Mitchell?
Author:  acelanceloet [ May 5th, 2011, 5:08 pm ]
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there would be no place on this thing for AA.... but that is one thing that is missing, indeed.
Author:  Portsmouth Bill [ May 5th, 2011, 5:11 pm ]
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Sorry Alex, I just noticed something else: how would they launch the ships boats?
Author:  ALVAMA [ May 5th, 2011, 5:37 pm ]
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
Sorry Alex, I just noticed something else: how would they launch the ships boats?
Yeas my question aswell, I've read something odd that they would have made a special slip or drydock, but I don't think the design would have been serieus enough to lay down or launch, even since it's 1924 :mrgreen:
Author:  Colombamike [ May 5th, 2011, 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Huge BB
Great work but Few comments Alvama, maybe few errors (for armament)
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This 500 000 tons battleship study carry 16" turrets and 5.5" mount (likely similar than the Nagato/Akagi/Amagi class)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... I-1925.png

Some data:
Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) : (1,998.20 ft / 1,984.91 ft) x 262.47 ft (Bulges 298.56 ft) x (59.06 / 61.03 ft) (609.05 m / 605.00 m) x 80.00 m (Bulges 91.00 m) x (18.00 / 18.60 m)

Armaments:
- 100 - 16.14" / 410 mm 45.0 cal guns (14 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread 12 raised mounts, 36 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 2 raised mounts)

- 200 - 5.51" / 140 mm 50.0 cal guns (Breech loading guns in casemate mounts , 1914 Model
158 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread, 44 raised mounts, 114 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas, 42 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 42 double raised mounts)

- 100 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns
(88 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread, 60 raised mounts, 12 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 12 double raised mounts)

- 100 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes tubes

PS: Source variation for date of design study: 1917 or 1924...?
Author:  bezobrazov [ May 5th, 2011, 7:15 pm ]
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I wonder if Commander Kaneda was influenced by contemporary French designs? I've looked at the drawing that Colombamike contributed, and undeniably the turrets are both small and round, which makes me think of extremely cramped gunhouses, which would've severely decreased their efficiency. But, like most've said: very weird and odd, completely impractical and crazy, but a very impressive drawing, Alex!
Author:  Novice [ May 5th, 2011, 7:26 pm ]
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Impressive drawing Alex.

....no ... I will not comment on the design.
The drawing is the issue, and a very good one.
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