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Shigure
Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 28th, 2016, 10:45 am
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Antara's navy isn't as massive as the US, but is still sizable and quite a threat to Japan's early advances through the Pacific.

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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 28th, 2016, 12:04 pm
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Keisser wrote:
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12x14" is not going to work on that hull. If you want 12x14" guns, look at the Fuso and Ise classes, as they are of the right size for that number of guns of that size.
Will 12x10" work here?
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The design is also way too old for a battleship designed in 1928-29.
Tristan wants to remake its background, so, I will temporary remove the ship.
Thanks for commenting Karle94 and ezgo394!
10" guns may be too small, but that's your choice. I think 10x12" will be the best solution. Alternatively, you could have two triple turrets, with twins superfiring and one twin in the middle. That will give you 12 guns, but only 5 turrets.


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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 28th, 2016, 12:07 pm
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Doesn't matter how big the ship is, the IJN is gonna blow it up anyways.

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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 28th, 2016, 12:13 pm
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TristanAlting wrote:
Doesn't matter how big the ship is, the IJN is gonna blow it up anyways.
Did they know that when they designed the ship?


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Shigure
Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 28th, 2016, 12:16 pm
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Good point. Ignore what I said!

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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 29th, 2016, 8:01 am
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V2 Donald R. Johnson
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Now with 5x2 12". Hope now there will be more place for machinery and boilers.
DNS Donald R. Johnson, Antara battleship laid down 1934

Displacement:
29 765 t light; 31 449 t standard; 32 885 t normal; 34 035 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(583,99 ft / 577,43 ft) x 98,43 ft x (31,50 / 32,43 ft)
(178,00 m / 176,00 m) x 30,00 m x (9,60 / 9,88 m)

Armament:
12 - 14,02" / 356 mm 50,0 cal guns - 1 457,37lbs / 661,05kg shells, 90 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1934 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
2 raised mounts
12 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,45lbs / 51,46kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1934 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
6 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 18 850 lbs / 8 550 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 434,71 ft / 132,50 m 16,24 ft / 4,95 m
Ends: 5,00" / 127 mm 100,07 ft / 30,50 m 12,30 ft / 3,75 m
42,65 ft / 13,00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 116% of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
5,00" / 127 mm 344,49 ft / 105,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,0" / 381 mm 12,0" / 305 mm 12,0" / 305 mm
2nd: 5,00" / 127 mm 5,00" / 127 mm -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 4,00" / 102 mm
Forecastle: 4,00" / 102 mm Quarter deck: 4,00" / 102 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 15,98" / 406 mm, Aft 15,98" / 406 mm

Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 63 944 shp / 47 702 Kw = 24,00 kts
Range 9 000nm at 11,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 586 tons (60% coal)

Complement:
1 220 - 1 587

Cost:
£15,698 million / $62,793 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 524 tons, 10,7%
- Guns: 3 524 tons, 10,7%
Armour: 13 033 tons, 39,6%
- Belts: 3 873 tons, 11,8%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 836 tons, 2,5%
- Armament: 4 387 tons, 13,3%
- Armour Deck: 3 230 tons, 9,8%
- Conning Towers: 707 tons, 2,1%
Machinery: 1 946 tons, 5,9%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 262 tons, 34,2%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 120 tons, 9,5%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
43 370 lbs / 19 672 Kg = 31,5 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 7,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 5,7 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 17,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 47 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,85
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,643 / 0,646
Length to Beam Ratio: 5,87 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,03 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 10,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Forward deck: 20,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Aft deck: 60,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Quarter deck: 10,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Average freeboard: 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88,4%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142,9%
Waterplane Area: 43 259 Square feet or 4 019 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 208 lbs/sq ft or 1 015 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,94
- Longitudinal: 1,82
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room

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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 29th, 2016, 10:14 am
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Keisser wrote:
V2 Donald R. Johnson

Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Forward deck: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Aft deck: 100,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Quarter deck: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Average freeboard: 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Got some real problems here...


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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 29th, 2016, 10:16 am
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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 29th, 2016, 10:21 am
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eltf177 wrote:
Keisser wrote:
V2 Donald R. Johnson

Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Forward deck: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Aft deck: 100,00%, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Quarter deck: 0,00%, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m, 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Average freeboard: 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Got some real problems here...
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Post subject: Re: Democratic Republic of AntaraPosted: July 29th, 2016, 10:22 am
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