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Wolfman
Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 7:09 pm
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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Hi Emperor_Andreas,

The ship looks nice, but Constitution? I thought that there was already a Constitution in active service at that point (and to this day) - the 1790s frigate, in much the same fashion as the British Victory...

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 7:23 pm
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apdsmith wrote:
The ship looks nice, but Constitution? I thought that there was already a Constitution in active service at that point (and to this day) - the 1790s frigate, in much the same fashion as the British Victory...
Technically speaking Constitution was the name of one of the planned Lexington class Battlecruisers too..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Consti ... 5%29#Ships
Any omonimy with the old ship was avoided by renaming Old Ironsides into "Old Constitution" on December 1917. Obviously, when the Battlecruiser was canceled under the Washington Naval Treaty terms Old Ironsides effectively returned to her original name, officaly on 24 July 1925.
I suppose we might assume that the same escamotage was used in Emperor's AU too.

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 7:25 pm
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Great minds think alike, my friend...I was just writing a post saying that very thing! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 8:42 pm
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Nice concept ship, but the use of the name Antietam was already use by an Essex class carrier CV-36

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 16th, 2014, 9:06 pm
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Novice wrote:
Nice concept ship, but the use of the name Antietam was already use by an Essex class carrier CV-36
That's right, and with the war being extended to late '46, she would have seen action along with Boxer, Kearsarge, Tarawa, Phillipine Sea and Princeton... something to think about, anyways...


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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 17th, 2014, 1:07 am
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USN carriers are named differently in this AU; the Essex-class is known as the Bunker Hill-class. CV-36 is named Lake Champlain. Here's a full list of USN CVs for this AU up to CV-58 (not including CVEs):

Langley-class
Langley (CV-1)

Lexington-class
Lexington (CV-2)
Saratoga (CV-3)

Bennington-class
Bennington (CV-4)

Yorktown-class
Yorktown (CV-5)
Enterprise (CV-6)
Wasp (CV-7)
Hornet (CV-8)

Bunker Hill-class (Short Hull Batch 1)
Bunker Hill (CV-9)
Ticonderoga (CV-10)
Lexington (CV-11)
White Plains (CV-12)
Essex (CV-13)
Bon Homme Richard (CV-14)
Intrepid (CV-15)
Yorktown (CV-16)
Franklin (CV-17)
Kitty Hawk (CV-18)
Wasp (CV-19)
Oriskany (CV-20)
Hancock (CV-21)

Independence-class
Independence (CVL-22)
Princeton (CVL-23)
Belleau Wood (CVL-24)
Cowpens (CVL-25)
Monterey (CVL-26)
Cabot (CVL-27)
Bataan (CVL-28)
San Jacinto (CVL-29)
Kernstown (CVL-30)

Bunker Hill-class (Long Hull Batch 1)
Hornet (CV-31)
Crown Point (CV-32)
Reprisal (CV-33)
Redemption (CV-34)
Shangri-La (CV-35)
Lake Champlain (CV-36)
Tarawa (CV-37)
Valley Forge (CV-38)
Iwo Jima (CV-39)
Philippine Sea (CV-40)

Midway-class (Batch 1)
Midway (CVB-41)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (CVB-42)
Coral Sea (CVB-43)
Pearl Harbor (CVB-44)

Bunker Hill-class (Short Hull Batch 2)
Fort Sumter (CV-45)
Bull Run (CV-46)
Kearsarge (CV-47)

Saipan-class
Saipan (CVL-48)
Wright (CVL-49)

Bunker Hill-class (Long Hull Batch 2)
Fort Donelson (CV-50)
Malvern Hill (CV-51)
Perryville (CV-52)
Fredericksburg (CV-53)
Chancellorsville (CV-54)
Chickamauga (CV-55)

Midway-class (Batch 2)
Guadalcanal (CVB-56)
Leyte Gulf (CVB-57)

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 17th, 2014, 6:54 am
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Great looking ship.


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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 17th, 2014, 7:36 am
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may I ask, on the Constitution class, what did you sacrifice for the heavier arnament on the same hull? you have heavier main guns, more secondaries ....
I also cannot really see why you moved the funnel, floatplane there or not, I think it is now in a worse position then originally for smoke interference.

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Post subject: Re: Nihon Kaigun 1946Posted: July 17th, 2014, 8:24 am
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Hi Ace,

I'd figured that the main guns were now twins instead of triples, wouldn't that (roughly) come out the same weight?

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