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SHIPDUDE
Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 5:38 pm
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Make the oil rigs into fortresses!


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 5:55 pm
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IIRC the Iranians mounted SAMs and ASMs on oil rigs during the tanker war. That's as close as you're gonna get to making them a "fortress" (or making anything a "fortress" anymore).

Interestingly enough the Iranians used them offensively which they could more or less get away with due to the confines of the Hormuz. I could be mistaken though as it's been a very long time since I read up on it.


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 8:00 pm
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Sounds like something the Iranians would do

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 8:15 pm
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Heck... sounds intelligent, actually; one of the few things I would credit the Iranian military for doing correctly.

If I wanted to defend the approaches of Mobile, Pascagoula, Biloxi, or New Orleans... well, arming the offshore platforms would provide me with a good 'opening punch'- especially if the approaching enemy forces weren't expecting that kind of things. I'd go from having several high-value targets to defend to having several nigh-unsinkable defensive outposts... though they might have a problem with exploding violently when hit unless you had time to cap the well.


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 8:32 pm
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Carthaginian wrote:
Heck... sounds intelligent, actually; one of the few things I would credit the Iranian military for doing correctly.

If I wanted to defend the approaches of Mobile, Pascagoula, Biloxi, or New Orleans... well, arming the offshore platforms would provide me with a good 'opening punch'- especially if the approaching enemy forces weren't expecting that kind of things. I'd go from having several high-value targets to defend to having several nigh-unsinkable defensive outposts... though they might have a problem with exploding violently when hit unless you had time to cap the well.
How survivable would the average offshore platform be against missiles and gunfire?

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 8:53 pm
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Not very especially when things catch fire. Piper Alpha only done with military means...

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 9:05 pm
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Colosseum wrote:
How survivable would the average offshore platform be against missiles and gunfire?
Not at all.

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 9:46 pm
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[ img ]+guns+missiles=more defensive élan than nuclear battlecruisers.


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: February 29th, 2012, 10:07 pm
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Anway, you're missing the SHIPDUDE point. :? It's as logical to turn your oil rigs into armored concrete battle islands as it is to build a giant slab-sided nuclear battlecruiser to protect them!

Iranian oil rigs were only involved in military action because they were in the chokepoint of Hormuz. :idea: Look at the map of Brazil - there may be a difference but I'm terrible at geography!

People aren't going to cross the ocean and invade oil rigs D-day style! If the oil crisis is so bad that people are taking over rigs, they'll look like this:

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Honestly trucks would be a better defense than an inherently offensive "BCGN."


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 3:40 am
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