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Carthaginian
Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 6:00 am
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Colosseum wrote:
How survivable would the average offshore platform be against missiles and gunfire?
Depends: are they currently full of oil or not?
Aside from that, those rigs are designed to withstand conditions that most ships run from. As long as you offload the flammables, the rig should be able to take one or two hits- which is about what any warship would be able to take. Remember, the rig is generally 'hollow', and a lot of the blast force that would be contained in a ship will be lost in atmosphere on the rig!


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 7:34 am
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Well keep in mind, as I somewhat alluded to before, US forces did engage armed oil rigs in the Gulf/Hormuz.

Here's a bunch of links you guys might want to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Will
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Prime_Chance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eager_Glacier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nimble_Archer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis


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Carthaginian
Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 7:44 am
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The high-explosive shells did negligible blast damage to the steel-lattice platforms, but eventually set them ablaze.
It seems that the platforms held up fairly well, given the circumstances and the amount of artillery directed at them. It would be interesting to see how many shells were fired before any concrete effect was obtained... like the fire actually starting.

I won't say that they would make any kind of lasting fortifications- but used properly (which it sounds like the Iranians didn't do) they could have made a heck of a dent in an approaching force.


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 7:46 am
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Oh hey look someone read those links :P


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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 9:21 am
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Carthaginian wrote:
I won't say that they would make any kind of lasting fortifications- but used properly (which it sounds like the Iranians didn't do) they could have made a heck of a dent in an approaching force.
In limited war perhaps. In an all out war they'd be destroyed by long ranged missiles or submarines as early in the war as possible.
Like you said, "they're built to resist stuff most ships will run from" because they can't run anywhere which makes them perfect targets for cruise and ballistic missiles.
In an all out war keeping you from getting the oil is more important to your enemy than for him to capture it.

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 1st, 2012, 1:00 pm
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guys let's do this thing no history for now,let me do another ships because we go 4 pages only because of this "weird" history i created. ;)

still a gigantic job to do :shock:

If you have any ideas of ships or history send me PM it will be very apreciated :)

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 2nd, 2012, 9:02 pm
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guys i reduced the length of the BCG and now it's classified as CGN and i reduced the number of VLS and the deck for helicopters and will be built in 95' maybe...and i have a model to another BCG(soon :( ).

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Colosseum
Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 2nd, 2012, 9:22 pm
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Anything above a corvette in size is going to be overkill for defending drilling rigs.

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Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 2nd, 2012, 9:58 pm
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If one is insistant about a whole ship for the task, something like a LPH would seem to make a great deal more sense. Oil rigs are distributed targets, so fast and numerous defensive craft (ie helos) would seem appropriate. Anything that couldn't be whacked with a few helo-launched SSMs is so powerful a fleet in being as to demand counter from one's own major forces.


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Biancini1995
Post subject: Re: Federative Republic of BrazilPosted: March 2nd, 2012, 10:29 pm
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guys forget about oil rigs for now lets' concentrate on the ships :)

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