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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 17th, 2015, 6:30 pm
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Hey, we're neighbors.
But seriously, it is better to start small. I started big and it didn't get me anywhere. Now I have two small AUs (Salide and Denton) and I'm having a blast with them.
Trust me, a small AU is just as fun, if not more fun, than a giant rule-all nuclear-weapon 10-carrier state.

I also second the comments about doing research on the existing tectonic plates and land masses. That alone will make your AU more realistic. Anyone can draw islands and plop them down anywhere. A true AU-verser can make it belong.

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 18th, 2015, 9:19 am
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While the geography discussions are interesting (and I mean that sincerely, I did not know about an entire lost continent (and yes, I am aware of what the word "lost" means ;))) I'd repeat the point about the drawings. Heck, NSWE's drawings aren't even all that good (most of them aren't even sensible), but the backstory has mostly gotten a pass because I've put some drawings down.

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 18th, 2015, 9:43 am
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This continent could be reappeared lets say in 12th century under volcanic explosions, but its area was about two thirds of the original. First settlers were Arabs and Tamil, later discovered and explored by English or Spanish even Dutch, since these were the main explorers we know today. You can invent explorers names or use names from your family. History generally will be based around a colony (which may shared between two or even three dominants dud to size) which became independent after a revolution during WW1 (were all large powers had a war to fought and were concetrated in European field).

Being a continent state, this AU does nkt need to be superpower, something like Australia is the best (according to my opinion). Of course, in WW2 you can take Axis side or Allies side or remain neutral, but try to stay fairly small in power. Thank you for your time reading all this text.


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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 20th, 2015, 10:53 am
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I will first post the historical timeline then the ships so, yeah, you will have to wait until you see something sailing. Also I am sticking to the shape but the contours will change

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 22nd, 2015, 1:09 am
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Here is a redone map with the mountains reduced in size
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And this is the history of Lothringen
UNITED FEDERAL STATES OF LOTHRINGEN’S HISTORICAL TIMELINE
10,000 BCE – Evidence of Homo sapiens’ existent in the continent of Lothringen and surrounding islands found
450 BCE – First settlements recorded
242 BCE – Formation of several kingdoms including Kingdom of Royessau which was the biggest
132 BCE – Kingdom of Royessau invades the Kingdom of Vasiva and annexes it.
100 BCE – Kingdom of Royessau invades the Kingdom of Burch and the Kingdom of Deutsch
45 CE – Kingdom of Royessau annexes the Kingdom of Burch and the Kingdom of Deutsch
50 CE – Kingdom of Royessau begin naval expeditions up north.
52 CE – The island of Karlsland is found, settlements are made
54 CE – The island of Baltland is found, Royessau sends settlers to the island
56 CE – Kingdom of Royessau begins to expand southwards, annexes or influence the kingdoms to the south
87 CE – Royessau becomes the Empire of Royessau after expanding across North, Central and South Lothringen, Karlsland, Baltland, Ostmark, Bayern, Belka, Estovakia, Emmeria, Holstein, Schwein, Neue Karlsland, Hipper, Jutland, Schleswig, Radostnyy, Ehren Insel, Svoboda, Zhenshchina and Chlevok
150 CE – Empire of Royessau began to unravel apart as the kingdom fell apart
167 CE – Empire of Royessau is completely destroyed and the South Indian island continent falls into a dark era.
254 CE – No new government is formed
750 CE – It becomes almost like North America prior to the arrival of the British settlers.
869 CE – Kingdom of Ringen is founded.
870 CE – Kingdom of Saransk is founded.
884 CE – Kingdom of Hannover is founded
900 CE – Kingdom of Ringen begins to expand
910 CE – Kingdom of Saransk begins to expand
930 CE – Kingdom of Hannover begins to expand slowly.
1004 CE – Kingdom of Ringen controls North Lothringen, Karlsland, Neue Karlsland, Baltland, Zhenshchina, Chlevok, Holstein, Estovakia, Neue Emmeria, Emmeria, Ehren Insel, Belka, Yedinstvo, Suverenitet, Unabhängigket and Hipper. Central Lothringen, Jutland, Schleswig, and Ostmark are controlled by the Kingdom of Saransk. Kingdom of Hannover controls South Lothringen, Radostnyy and Bayern.
1354 CE – Kingdom of Ringen establishes links with outside world by sending ships in all directions. Kingdom of Ringen and Kingdom of Hannover sign secret alliance.
1356 CE – Kingdom of Ringen begins to trade with India, China and the Arab world. Kingdom of Saransk attacks Kingdom of Hannover and Kingdom of Ringen triggering the War of Three Kingdoms
1359 CE – Kingdom of Ringen and Kingdom of Hannover stop the Saransk advance at the battles of Bethmann and Steinmeyer respectively. The war became a stalemate.
1364 CE – Kingdom of Hannover and Kingdom of Ringen agree to unify as the Empire of Lothringen. The Empire of Lothringen invades the Kingdom of Saransk from the north and south. The Lothringenese assault the Saransk held islands of Ostmark, Jutland and Schleswig.
1367 CE – Kingdom of Saransk capitulates ending the War of Three Kingdoms
1405 CE – Empire of Lothringen begins trading with Malaccan Sultanate.
1410 CE – Empire of Lothringen, Malacca Sultanate and the Chinese Ming Dynasty agree on trade agreements.
1505 CE – Empire of Lothringen begins falter as massive scaled rebellions take place.
1511 CE – Malacca Sultanate falls to Portugal. Empire of Lothringen and Ming Dynasty do assist as facing internal problems.
1520 CE – Empire of Lothringen becomes stable again.
1522 CE – The Spanish vessel Victoria under command of Juan Sebastián Elcano stops in Hasselvander to resupply before continuing on the voyage back to Spain.
1534 CE – Empire of Lothringen collapses. No new central government is formed and the islands return to a dark age. The population becomes majority of rural as the towns and cities were burned down except for a few
1578 CE – Sir Francis Drake stops in Valerievna before continuing with his journey.
1607 CE – British settlers arrive in the North section of North Lothringen and created settlements, Jamestown, New Portsmouth, Charlestown, and Westhampton. The settlements were jointly called the Lothringen Colonies after the continent. French and Spanish also settle in western, central, southwestern sections of North Lothringen and north central and eastern section of North Lothringen respectively. No European settlers dare go further than the 500 South parallel as it was very cold.
1610 CE – The British also settles on Karlsland, Neue Karlsland, Baltland, Zhenshchina, Chlevok and Schwein.
1625 CE – The British control territories are divided into fifteen colonies; South Hampshire, Southey, Deswell, South Ireland (Baltland), Livingston, New Maryland, New Virginia, Cunningham, Shetland (West Karlsland), (East Karlsland), Blackburn Island (Neue Karlsland), Isle of James (Zhenshchina), Howard Island (Chlevok), Stanford (Schwein), South York and Essex
1689 CE – The British colonies were united to become the British Dominion of Lothringen however the union was disbanded after disagreements over certain issues, such as law.
1770 CE – Captain James Cook uses Lothringen as a launching platform for his mapping of Eastern Australia
1774 CE – Lothringenese become angered by the tax laws made by the British Parliament and the cruelty of the British soldiers to the natives and began to revolt. The Birmingham Spice Soup takes place followed by the Edinburgh Massacre.
1776 CE – The American Revolution forces Britain to move troops out of Lothringen. The United Federal States of Lothringen under Andrew Chuikov takes the opportunity to declare independence, triggering the Lothringenese Revolution. The Lothringenese Army is formed and battles the British Redcoats. The United Federal States of Lothringen (UFSL) gets support from the Prussian Empire and the French Empire.
1778 CE – The Lothringen Navy is commissioned with the LS Böse, LS Man and LS Angel as its first ships. All three ships engaged in raiding missions against the Royal Navy.
1779 CE – The UFSL becomes victorious in the Lothringenese Revolution. She has a population of 3 000 000 at the time of her independence.
1788 CE – UFSL allows British ships to stop to resupply on their voyages to Australia as part of an agreement with Britain where Britain agrees to reduce taxes paid by Lothringenese merchants importing British goods.
1789 CE – UFSL consolidate economic and political strength. The territory was divided into new states and the towns were given new names.
1804 CE – UFSL buys the French territories in the Bretagne Purchase.
1805 CE – UFSL purchases the Spanish owned territory in the Castillo Purchase.
1806 CE – UFSL consolidates control over newly acquired territory. She has a population of 4 100 000 at the time.
1810 CE – Lothringen becomes a powerful nation. Lothringen and United Kingdom become friendly and have numerous trade agreements. Lothringen Military Forces is reformed as the Lothringen Federal Military Forces. Lothringenese Army, Navy and Naval Infantry Force become the Lothringenese Federal Army (LFA), Lothringenese Federal Navy (LFN) and Lothringenese Federal Marine Corp (LFMC).
1825 CE – Lothringen and the United States have friendly relationships. Lothringen expanded southwards.
1830 CE – Lothringen reaches Central Lothringen and the Waldmüller Sea.
1856 CE – Federal States of Lothringen now encompass all of North, Central and South Lothringen and surrounding islands. Lothringen signs the Sino-Lothringenese Treaty and establishes a concession in Shanghai. The Lothringenese concession joins the Shanghai Municipal Council
1860 CE – States in Central Lothringen and northern South Lothringen demand that Lothringen become a monarchy. The government in Chuikov Stadt doesn’t comply. The Kingdom of Lothringen secedes from the United Federal States of Lothringen, effectively splitting the UFSL. The Kingdom begins to invade the United Federal States. Prussia and Britain send support to the United Federal States. Spain for a period supported the Kingdom of Lothringen however shifted to United Federal States after the rape of Spanish nuns in a captured UFSL town.
1863 CE – Kingdom of Lothringen make little progress in North Lothringen however they gain large territorial gain from South Lothringen. UFSL blockades the Kingdom of Lothringen. This is the high water mark for the Kingdom of Lothringen’s advances. Lothringen, USA and UK creates the Shanghai International Settlement.
1864 CE – United Federal States of Lothringen turns the tide and retakes the land lost to the Kingdom of Lothringen.
1865 CE – United Federal States of Lothringen defeats the Kingdom of Lothringen.
1866 CE – United Federal States of Lothringen undergoes large scaled industrialization
1870 CE – Franco-Prussian War occurs, Lothringen takes a neutral stance however does continue to trade with both countries.
1899 CE – United Federal States of Lothringen joins the US, the UK, Austria-Hungary, Italy, Russia, Germany, Japan and France in the Nine Nation Alliance to combat the Boxer Rebellion. Lothringen has 2500 troops stationed in China.
1901 CE – Boxer Rebellion is crushed, Lothringen reduces number of troops in China from 2500 to 1950. Lothringen signs a trade agreement with Japan
1914 CE – World War 1 Starts. Lothringen joins the Triple Entente. Lothringen and Japan join forces and occupy the German Pacific Colonies. Lothringen occupy the Marshall Inseln (Marshall Islands) and half of German New Guinea while Japan occupies the Marianas, Carolines, Palau.
1915 CE – Germany declares war on Lothringen. Lothringen Federal Valkyrie Guards (LFVG) is established.
1916 CE – Lothringenese Federal Navy takes part in the Battle of Jutland. The LFN suffers heavily in the engagement, losing four battleships, four battlecruisers and scores of cruisers and destroyers. 5450 sailors were lost. Lothringenese Federal Air Force (LFAF) and Lothringenese Federal Intelligence Bureau (LFIB) created. Lothringen Federal Coast Guard (LFCG) is formed. Lothringenese Federal Military Forces commanders realize that most of the LFMF is fighting in Europe so it was decided that the Lothringen Ground Guards (LGG), Lothringenese Naval Guards (LNG), Lothringenese Aerial Guards (LAG) were created.
1917 CE – Russian Revolution takes place. The Romanov family of Russia is taken out of Russia to Lothringen as agreed in a secret pact between the Lothringenese Government and the Russian Bolsheviks in exchange for financial and material support.
1919 CE – World War 1 is over, Allies won. Treaty of Versailles is signed. Lothringen and United States do not recognize the treaty as they had a large German population, to be true; Lothringen is mainly made of German (half the population). Lothringen and America declared neutrality. Lothringen doesn’t join the League of Nations however is given control of the Marshall Island. Lothringenese Federal Navy establishes a Pacific Naval Fleet Command and two Pacific naval bases. Kaiser Wilhelm and his family moves to Lothringen.
1922 CE – Washington Naval Treaty signed. The agreement for capital ships was a ratio of 5:5:5:3:1.75:1.75 of tonnage between Britain, the United States, Lothringen, Japan, France and Italy respectively. Lothringen Federal Navy begins scrapping most the capital ships. Italy becomes Fascist under Benito Mussolini. Lothringen reduces trade with Italy.
1925 CE – Lothringen and Japan signs a treaty for a naval technology exchange for the next ten years.
1931 CE – Great Depression hits Lothringen fairly hard however it manages to stay afloat partly due to large internal trade and the existence of banking, industrial laws.
1930 CE – London Naval Conference takes place. The agreements meant that number of heavy cruisers was limited - Britain was permitted 15 with a total tonnage of 180,000, the US, 18 totaling 147,000, the UFSL was 15 totaling 165,000 tons and the Japanese 12 totaling 108,000 tons. Light cruisers were also limited however with no numbers were specified but the tonnage limits were 143,500 tons for the US, 155,000 for the UFSL 192,200 tons for the British and 100,450 tons for the Japanese
1933 CE – Hitler comes to power in Germany. Lothringen begins trade with Germany more.
1935 CE – Lothringen and Japan ends the naval technology exchange program, Lothringen gives a large sum of money to Japan as a token of thanks.
1936 CE – London Treaty of 1936 takes place. The agreement was that battleships were reduced to 15:15:10:9 for the United States, Great Britain, Lothringen and Japan respectively. Lothringen begins to deploy spies in Germany as she watches the Third Reich rise to power.
1937 CE – Japan invades Manchuria, Lothringen criticize and condemn the act of aggression. Lothringen creates a spy network in Japan. Lothringen begins to rearm. LFN begins naval expansion program.
1938 CE – Lothringen signs a technology exchange program with Germany. Lothringen secretly strengthens spy network in Germany.
1939 CE – World War 2 starts, Lothringen terminates technology exchange program with Germany and immediately reduce trade with Germany.
1940 CE – Battle of France takes place. Lothringen secretly learns about Germany’s blitzkrieg tactic and adopts it. Lothringenese Federal Military Forces remodels and restructures in order to be able to use the tactics. Lothringen steals blueprints from Germany and Japan. Lothringen cuts trade with Germany.
1941 CE – Lothringen joins the United States in supplying Britain, France and Soviet Union in the Lend Lease program. Lothringen pull ships from the Pacific Fleets to defend convoys from German U-boats. By November, Lothringenese Federal Central Pacific Fleet had only one carrier, one old battleship, one battlecruiser, one heavy cruiser, one light cruiser and two destroyers while Lothringenese Federal South Pacific Fleet has one light carrier, one heavy cruiser, two light cruisers, three destroyers and five submarines. Japan attacks Pearl Harbour and Lothringenese Marshall Islands and invade the latter. Lothringenese Federal Pacific Fleet engages in limited actions against the Imperial Japanese Navy in order to delay the Japanese to allow the Lothringenese troops stationed in the Marshalls to evacuate. Marshall Islands fall to Japan and Lothringen losses a light cruiser, a destroyer, fifteen planes and 500 soldiers before Japan declares war. Lothringen declares war on Japan. Lothringen begins a massive rearmament program. Lothringen halfheartedly supports Chiang Kai Shek’s corrupt China.
1942 CE – Japan invades Lothringenese New Guinea, Australian New Guinea, Gilbert Islands, Solomon Islands and South East Asia. Lothringen and Netherlands work together to defend the island of Java however the Japanese overpowers them and Lothringenese South Pacific Fleet reinforced with the survivors of the Central Pacific Fleet protects the Allied naval force as they escaped from the Japanese onslaught. Lothringenese Federal Navy losses were the light carrier, LS Gerechtigkeit, the battleship, LS Huderian, the heavy cruiser LS Carrius, forty planes and 143 sailors during the Battle of Java Sea. Lothringen and the United States sign the Pearl Harbour Treaty where the two powers agree to join forces to destroy the German and Japanese war machines. Lothringenese Federal Navy takes part in the Battle of Midway however loses aircraft carrier, LS Kamerad, a destroyer, 25 planes and 501 men. Lothringen manages to capture Japanese cruiser, Mikuma. Lothringenese Federal Marine Corps and US Marine Corps assault Guadalcanal. Lothringen ramps up armament production
1943 CE – Tehran Conference, the big four, Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Joseph Stalin and Erich Krueger meet and agreed to a grand strategy. Lothringen will support all fronts against the Axis which will be the North African, Western European, Eastern European, South Asian and Pacific fronts. Lothringenese Military Forces takes part in liberation of North Africa and Italy. LFAF and LFN defend the Italian battleship Roma from German bombers. LFA joins the Soviet Army in the retaking of Western Russia. LFAF joins in the Allied Bombing Campaign of Germany. Lothringen continues to steal blueprints and documents from Germany and Japan.
1944 CE – The Allies Forces pushes the Axis back. LFA joins the Americans and the British in Operation Overlord. LFN and LFMC with the American Navy and Marine Corp continue to push the Japanese back. LFN also supports the British forces in the South Asian Campaign. Lothringenese Federal Valkyrie Guards successfully undertake Operation Foxhunt; the capture of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel. Lothringen recaptures Marshall Islands. LFN captures several Japanese ships during the mainly Lothringenese led campaign to recapture island. Lothringen leases Bikini Atolls to the United States as a thank you. The Lothringenese Federal Army launches a massive amphibious assault on the north coast of Germany, capturing most of Germany’s warships, research facilities and bases in the region and soon liberates Denmark.
1945 CE – Battle of Okinawa takes place, LFMC, LFA, LFN, US Navy, US Army and USMC assault the scimitar shaped island south of the Japanese home islands. Lothringenese and American fighters attack the Imperial Japanese Navy, south of Kyushu. Lothringenese Federal Navy managed to capture the battleship Yamato. World War 2 ends, the victorious nations take control of the defeated nations. Germany and its capital, Berlin is split into five sectors. Japan becomes a joint occupation under the United States of America and the United Federal States of Lothringen. Lothringen gives Marshall Islands independence but still retains her naval base there. The American Lease on Bikini Atolls is carried over. Lothringen and the US establish naval bases in Japan. The Cold War begins. Lothringen takes most of Germany and Japan’s naval equipment as war booty. UN is formed and the United States, USSR, UK, France, Republic of China and Lothringen form the United Nations Security Council.
1946 CE – Lothringen begins to rebuild her sector of Germany and Berlin. Lothringenese Federal Military Forces begins to cut down to a fraction of its wartime strength however this is minimal reduction. Lothringen successfully test her own nuclear bomb.
1947 CE – Lothringen declares neutrality as the United States and the Soviet Union both attempt to negotiate with Lothringen to get her on their side. Lothringen creates the Republic of Germany (aka North Germany) from her sector of Germany. Lothringen signs the treaty
1948 CE – Lothringen condemns the communist coup in Czechoslovakia. Lothringen condemns the USSR for the Berlin Blockade as it affected her sector of Berlin as well. USSR secretly unblocks all transportation links to Lothringenese Berlin from the Republic of Germany and Stalin personally apologized for the error in secret. Lothringen joins Britain and Commonwealth forces to combat communist rebels in Malaya.
1949 CE – NATO is formed, Lothringen declines to take part but secretly is friendly to NATO. Berlin Blockade is lifted, Lothringen decide to allow free trade in and out of her sector of Berlin. Soviet Union detonates its first atomic bomb. Lothringen sends a congratulations message to the USSR, in avertedly souring relations with the US. Federal Republic of Germany is formed. Republic of Germany and Federal Republic of Germany sign a series of trade agreement treaties.
1950 CE – Korean War starts, Lothringen sends her Military forces to support the South Korea. Relations between the United States and Lothringen get closer during the course of the Korea War.
1953 CE – Korean War ends and North and South Korea sign an armistice. Joseph Stalin dies. Lothringen explodes H-bomb.
1954 CE – Lothringen doesn’t take part in SEATO however agrees to give support.
1955 CE – Federal Republic of Germany joins NATO. Warsaw pact is established. Lothringen allows Republic of Germany to expand her Military forces to meet the threat from the south.
1956 CE – Lothringen and the United States surprised and delighted to hear Khrushchev denouncing Stalin. Hungarian Uprising occurs; Lothringen takes no action as not to anger the Soviet Union. Lothringen turns attention away from Hungary as the Suez crisis takes place. Lothringen condemns and threatens to cut trade with Britain and France. Lothringenese Federal Navy sailed into the Red Sea and blockaded it, only allowing non British or French ships through. World trade nearly grinds to a halt. UK and France withdraws from Suez and so does the Lothringenese Federal Navy.
1957 CE – Federation of Malaya becomes independence. Lothringen congratulates the Asian nation for its bloodless independence.
1958 CE – Khrushchev demanded that the West and Lothringen end their occupation of West and North Berlin and that Berlin becomes a free city. He backed down when the West and Lothringen showed back.
1959 CE – Lothringen stops trading with Cuba after it fell to Castro.
1960 CE – Sino-Soviet split occurs. Lothringen sends a very warm congratulations message to newly elected John Kennedy.
1961 CE – The disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion takes place. Lothringen was slightly displeased with America’s failure. Lothringen was angry with the construction of the Berlin Wall.
1962 CE – Lothringen prepare for nuclear war as the Cuba Missile Crisis takes place. The Lothringenese Federal Military Forces stationed in North Germany go into defensive positions or go into nuclear bunkers. The Lothringenese Federal Navy ordered all fleets to leave port in case of nuclear strike on their bases.
1963 CE – US – Soviet Union – Lothringen sign Hot Line agreement. US, Lothringen, USSR and Britain sign the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Lothringen sends condolences to the Kennedys after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Malaysia is formed, Lothringen increases trade with Malaysia.
1964 CE – Lothringen increase naval strength and bolster all Pacific fleets, (Western, Central and Southern) after China detonates first nuclear bomb. Lothringen signs defense treaty with Japan and Taiwan.
1965 CE – US begins bombing North Vietnam. Lothringenese Federal Navy increases patrols around the northern section of the South China Sea.
1967 CE – Six Day War in Middle East takes place. Lothringenese Federal Mediterranean Fleet patrols the waters near Israel and Egypt. Vietnam War escalates. Lothringen decides to back the United States but only with advisors and material support.
1968 CE – North Vietnam launches Tet Offensive in South Vietnam. Lothringen sees the Vietnam War as a losing fight and begins to pull her advisors out however continue sending material support. SALT talks begin between the USA, the USSR and the UFSL.
1970 CE – West Germany signs the Soviet – West German Treaty of Non-Aggression in Moscow. North Germany also signs a non- aggression treaty in Moscow.
1971 CE – Lothringen signs the Five Powers Agreement in Berlin with the USA, USSR, Britain and France. People’s Republic of China is admitted to the UN while Taiwan is expelled.
1973 CE – US – Vietnam armistice is signed. Arab – Israeli (Yom Kippur) War begun. Lothringenese Federal Mediterranean Fleet deploys again
1974 CE – SALT II outline agreed.
1975 CE – Vietnam War ends. Final Act of Helsinki Declaration signed though Lothringen was not entirely happy with the treaty.
1979 CE – Lothringen and US establish diplomatic relations with China
1981 CE – Lothringen and the United States impose economic sanctions against Poland and the Soviet Union
1983 CE – Ronald Reagan announces SDI, LFIB in the USA informs Chuikov Stadt that it is a bluff.
1985 CE – Lothringen surprised by Gorbachev’ Soviet Missile Deployment freeze announcement. Reagan-Gorbachev-Juutilainen summit in Geneva takes place
1986 CE – Reagan-Gorbachev-Juutilainen summit in Reykjavik takes place.
1987 CE – INF Treaty between US, USSR and Lothringen signed.
1989 CE – Communist parties in Romania, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary collapses. Berlin Wall is torn down. United Federal States of Lothringen joins the NATO alliance. United States of America and United Federal States of Lothringen sign an alliance treaty called the Treaty of Two Unions in Chuikov Stadt. Lothringenese Federal Navy sets up Lothringenese Federal Atlantic Fleet with its home naval base on Puerto Rico while the United States Navy establishes a naval base for the United States 5th Fleet in Neue Karlsland.
1990 CE – North, East and West Germany reunite into the Federal Republic of Germany. Lothringen resigns the Treaty of Kiel. Lothringen also assist Germany develop East Germany.
1991 CE – Lothringen joins the United States led coalition in the Gulf War. Bush, Gorbachev and Barkhorn sign START I. USSR dissolves.
2001 CE – Lothringen joins the United States in the War against terror.
2003 CE – Lothringen joins in the Second Gulf War. Lothringenese surprises coalition with the presence of her ten Hartmann class battleships to support the battle.
2004 CE – Lothringen is struck by the Boxing Day Tsunami, 20 000 Lothringenese loses their lives. The Lothringenese Federal Military Forces sends some of it forces to assist Indonesia in SAR missions and cleanup operations. Lothringenese – Malaysian relations become closer.
2007 CE – Financial Crisis strikes and Lothringen is hit badly but not severely.
2010 CE – Haitian Earthquake takes place. Lothringenese Federal Atlantic Fleet mobilizes to assist the situation
2011 CE – Arab Spring is in full swing, Lothringenese Federal Mediterranean Fleet is mobilized to guard the sea for trade. Lothringenese Federal Navy and Lothringenese Federal Air Force support the Anti Gaddafi Forces in the Libyan Crisis. Tohoku Earthquake occurs; Lothringen joins Operation Tomodachi to assist Japan in her time of need.
2013 CE – Lothringenese Federal Far East Fleet sends two carrier groups to support the Malaysian Military Forces in the Lahad Datu Standoff. Lothringen, US, Germany and Russia sign arms agreements with Malaysia. Lothringen sends Lothringen Federal Northern Indian Fleet to joint Combined Task force 150 to combat Somali piracy.
2014 CE – Lothringen joins fight against ISIS and Boko Haram. Russo-Lothringenese relations fall after the Crimean Crisis and the following Ukrainian Civil War occurs. Lothringenese Federal Navy, Lothringenese Federal Air Force, Lothringenese Federal Coast Guard, Lothringen Naval Guards and the Lothringen Aerial Guards join in the multinational search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight, MH370 but no luck so far.
Present Day – United Federal States of Lothringen is now an economic and military powerhouse.

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 22nd, 2015, 1:57 am
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LS Angel, Lothringenese First Fighting Ship
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LS Angel was amongst the first three ships of the Lothringenese Navy. It was armed with twenty 20 pounder guns. She can is an agile and fast ship. Her primary mission was to raid British merchant ships that were inbound for Lothringen. LS Angel was the most successful as she captured 15 British merchant vessels and sank one frigate. She and the LS Böse are still around however had been decommissioned in 1850 but are currently museum ships. LS Man was sunk by gunfire in an engagement of Neue Karlsland.

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Braun class, First Rate Ship of Line of the Lothringenese Navy
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This is the lead ship of the Braun class first rate ship of line of the Lothringenese Navy. Five of these vessels were built. These warships were 120 gun ships which were commissioned in 1810. These ships' guns were standardized and all were 24 pounder guns.These vessels didn't see action but were used as the vessels that transported the first Lothringenese ambassador to Britain. These ships were painted with to confuse the enemy ships. LS Braun is still commissioned and is the second oldest commissioned ship afloat after the USS Constitution.

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 22nd, 2015, 3:38 pm
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is LW braun comissioned afloat while upside down? because she won't leave the slibway upright when launched with those steel plates as you describe.

I am not certain anymore what was my contribution to this drawing, but if you credit me, would you be so kind to actually do that correctly? in addition, what exactly was your contribution to these drawings other then making the hull white?

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 22nd, 2015, 6:58 pm
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Hi OberstAmiruddin,

It's worth noting that by the time naval ships were adopting steel armour they'd already abandoned a full sailing rig as they were using steam propulsion - think Merrimack and Monitor.

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Post subject: Re: Lothringen, Southern SuperpowerPosted: March 22nd, 2015, 9:26 pm
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Removed the armour and sorry for the misspelling of your name, ace

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