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Post subject: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: March 30th, 2016, 1:28 pm
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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: March 30th, 2016, 1:29 pm
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This flag appeared in 1770, used through the 18th century uprisings and adopted as official flag of the very first Hellenic State as created in 1792. In use until 1828.

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This flag was adopted during the Great Revolt or Hellenic War for Independence in 1822m but officially adopted in 1828 and remains unchanged since then. Accurate tone of blue is not specified, so there are several variations with lighter or darker blue. This is true for real Hellas, so why not for AU?

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: March 30th, 2016, 1:30 pm
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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: March 30th, 2016, 1:33 pm
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Statistics (based on layout of Federal Republic of Denton)

Note that where i have "?" means that I am not sure yet

Statistics for Hellenic Kingdom (WIP)

Country Name:
Hellas (Ελλάς)

Official Country Name:
Hellenic Kingdom (Ελληνικό Βασίλειο)

Constitutional Name:
Kingdom of Hellas


"Freedom or Death" (Ελευθερία ή Θάνατος), express the determination to remain free

"Hymn to Liberty" (Ύμνος εις την ελευθερίαν)

19,418,000 (2016 Estimation)

Land Area:
196,500 sq km (approximately)

Official Language:

Recognized languages:


Hellene, Hellenic

Hellenes - 94.5%
5.5 % Other

Time zone:


Drives on the:


Phoenix (1828-1864)
Drachma (1864-present)
Accepts also Euro, all products have 2 prices in Euro and Drachma

Calling Code:

Internet TLD:
.hlk , .eu also

ISO 3166 code:
HLK (HeLlenic Kingdom)

Date Formats:

Parliamentary democracy under elective monarchy

-King: Ioannis II (Kapodistrias Dynasty) 1967-2020
Michael III (Feodorovich Dynasty) Regent until October 2022 Referendum
-First Minister*:

Upper House: Senate
Lower House: Parliament


From Ottoman Empire

Autonomous Principality : 9 January 1792 (Treaty of Jassy)
Declared Independence : 25 March 1821 (Great Revolt start)
Full Independence Recognized : 3 February 1830 (London Protocol)

First Constitution: 1798-1863
Current Constitution:1864/2005

GDP (nominal):
about $ 650,000,000,000 (2015)

GDP (nominal) per capita:
about $ 30,500

Tax Rates:

Sales Tax



8% Nominal
24% Maximum


8% Nominal
24% Maximum

Budget Breakdown

Social Protection
Public Order and Safety
Industry, Agriculture, and Employment


Hellenic Natural Resources Fund

Established : 1865
Money source : Mining Tax 2%

Life Expectancy:

Average: 80
Male: 77.5
Female: 82.6

Definition: All at least know to read and write
Total population: 99,8%


As real Hellas

Minimum Wage:

Unemployment Rate:

Employment Rate:

Number of Billionaires: 20

Number of Millionaires: 200,000 (total number of Hellenic-origin millionaires)

Intentional Homicide Rate:
0.8 per 100,000 people

Prison inmates per capita:
102 per 100,000 people
(includes also those under house arrest)

Capital City:

Second Largest City:

Top 20 Major Cities (in order of population):


Population Growth


Composition by sector:

Agriculture: % 12
Industry: % 38
Services: % 50

Main Exports:


Main Imports:




Natural resources:


Free Trade Agreement

Republic of Denton

Relation with European Union

Connented member with several technological and economic agreements since 1961


Roads and Automobiles:
Roadways - Paved: 168,000 km
Roadways - Unpaved: 32,000 km
Automobiles : 9,800,000
Buses and Coaches : 194,000 (regional,city,tourist)
Trucks and Vans : 94,000
Motorcycles and Mopeds : 325,000

Highway Speed Limit : 140kph ( +15%)

Air Transport:
Airports - Paved: 86
Airports - Unpaved: 28
Water airports (includes also inland water airports in some lakes): 112
Heliports: ?

Rail Transport

Operator : Hellenic Railways (Ελληνικοί Σιδηρόδρομοι)
Logo: ΕΛΣ

Railways: 6674 km (includes industrial lines)
Rail Gauge - Standard: 1.435m (4272 km)
Rail Gauge - Narrow: 1.000m (2018 km)
Rail Gauge - Narrow: 0.75m (328 km, includes 286 km mountainous rack railway)
Rail Gauge - Very Narrow: 0.60m (56 km)


25 kV/50 Hz (2040 km Standard Gauge)
15 kV/16.75 Hz (2232 km Standard Gauge)
3 kV DC (191 km Narrow Gauge 0.75m)
Not Electrified : 2018 km Narrow Gauge (1.00m), 193 km Narrow Gauge (0.75m), 56 km Very Narrow Gauge (0.60m)

Minimum/Maximum Speed (km/h)

Standard Gauge : 100/230 (100/180 in single line)
Narrow (1.000m) : 80/140
Narrow (0.75m) : 20/80 (max permissive speed with rack engaged 25 km/h)
Very Narrow (0.60m) : 15/40

Water Transport:

Merchant Marine: 3,875
Ports: >40 (at least one port in every island plus those on Mainland)

Installed Electricity Power:

40,100 MWh ( 33,975 MWh state and 6,125 MWh private)

Lignite : 13,900 MWh ( 34,66 % )
Natural gas : 5,003 MWh ( 12,48 % )
Hydroelectric : 3,508 MWh ( 8,75 % )
Renewable sources : 11,280 MWh ( 28,13 % )
Biogas : 2,000 MWh ( 5 % )
Biomass : 800 MWh ( 2 % )
Nuclear : 200 MWh ( 0,5 % ~)
Cogeneration : 3,423 MWh ( 8,54 % )


Annual Military budget:
6 % of GDP, or $
-(20 % for R&D)
-Funding from Hellenic Natural Resources Fund and NATO also

Military age: 18-50

Conscription: 18 months for all Male, Female voluntary

Available for Military service:

Male: (age 15-49)
Female: (age 15-49)

Fit for military service

Male: (age 15-49)
Female: (age 15-49)

Reaching military age annually:


Military Size

Army: ~220,000 (total active force, can be deployed in less than 24 hours).
Evzones Guard (Republican Guard type): 7870 (included in active force)
Air Force: 35,000
Navy: 34,200 + 1 Brigade Marines (4700) and 3 Platoons of Underwater Demolition Elite Unit (~300 ). Marines number is included in Army, but they are under Navy Command.
Total Active: ~ 289,200 (when Army is fully deployed)

Army Reserve:
Air Force Reserve:
Navy Reserve:
Total Reserve:

National Guard

Security Forces

Police : ?
Gendarme: ?
Coast Guard: ?
Frontier Guard: ?
Financial Police: ?
Forestry Rangers : ?

Royal Hellenic Air Force

Established : 1929


Tactical Air Force (fighters,bombers, attack)
Transport & Air Support (all transport aircraft)
Air Defense (AEW&C,EW, some fighters, medium and long range SAM)

Total Number of Fighters/Interceptors : 290
Total Number of Bombers and Attack aircraft : 156
Total Number of Combat capable aircraft : 446
Total Number of Transport Aircraft : 78
Total Number of Specialized Aircraft (AEW&C, Tankers, EW etc) : 22
Total Number of Training Aircraft : ?
Total Number of UAV : At least 72

Active Combat Wings : 9 (+ 1 for UAV)
Active Training Wings : 1
Active Combat Squadrons : 27 (3 are UAV squadrons)
Active Combat Groups : 9
Active Transport Squadrons : 4
Active Squadrons of Specialized Aircraft : 2
Active Squadrons of Training Aircraft : ?

Royal Hellenic Air Force AU chart (in WIP progress)

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Royal Hellenic Navy

Established : 1828 (modern form), but its roots go more than 3,000 years ago
Naval Bases : 5

Current Fleet

Aircraft Carriers : ?
Cruisers : 2
Destroyers : 6
Frigates : 18
Corvettes : 8
Patrol Corvettes : 4
Missile Boats : 30
Gunboats : 12
LPH : 2
LPD : 2
LST : 14
Smaller landing vessels also
Large Landing Hovercrafts : 6
Medium Landing Hovercrafts : 22
Small Landing Hovercrafts : 16 (operated by Army Amphibious Brigade)

Royal Hellenic Navy Aviation

Established : 1913
Bases : Share with Air Force
Fixed Wing Aircraft Combat Squadrons : 6 (1 under Marines Aviation)
Helicopter Combat Squadrons : 8 (2 under Marines Aviation)

Maritime Patrol Fixed Wing Aircraft : 12 (2 training)
Seaplanes : 12 (4 training, small size)
Specialized Fixed Wing Aircraft : ?
Training Helicopters : 12
Medium Helicopters : 46
Large Helicopters : 36

Royal Hellenic Navy Aviation AU chart (in WIP progress)

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Hellenic Army Aviation

Established : 1949 (modern form, with roots back in 1912)

Brigades : 4 (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th)
Attack Helicopters Battalions of Army Aviation (ΤΕΕΠ = Τάγματα Επιθετικών Ελικοπτέρων)-these are real
Armed Helicopter Battalions of Army Aviation (ΤΟΕΠ = Τάγματα Οπλισμένων Ελικοπτέρων)-these are AU, real life Hellenic Army Aviation did not had armed helicopters, only some of UH-1 could carry machine guns and rockets like in early Vietnam War.

Helicopter Battalions of Army Aviation* (ΤΕΑΣ = Τάγματα Ελικοπτέρων Αεροπορίας Στρατού)-All transport helicopters belong here, mostly AU types

*These battalions have the transport helicopters, but in their real life Hellenic name no mission is specified.

Heavy Transport Helicopters : 60
Medium Transport Helicopters : 132
Light Utility helicopters : 180
Attack helicopters : 48
Light Attack and Scout helicopters : 60
Training helicopters : 40

P.S I know that helicopters are outdated designs. But some of these are not ready in newer drawing style and all together keep more or less the same appearance. I collect "new" drawings and when all I need are ready will change them.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: March 30th, 2016, 7:41 pm
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At last!

Looking forward for your posts!

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: June 20th, 2016, 5:28 am
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AU History of Hellas (only for Shipbucket Forum)

Sincerely thanks to eswube for his assistance in writing the AU history for this AU.

Timeline 1770-1864

1770-1774 First Hellenic Uprising under Russo-Turkish War
1774 Treary of Kutsuk Kainartzi gives significant advantages to Hellenes
1788-1791 Second Hellenic Uprising under Russo-Turkish War again.
1792 Treaty of Jassy creates the first Hellenic State, a de facto Russian protectorate/de jure Ottoman suzerainty, under Prince Michael Feodorovich. This
was Catherine the Great's "Greek Plan".
1798 First Constitution of Hellenic Principality
1806-1812 Support of Serbs in their own Uprising officially under Russo-Turkish war, support continue unofficially until 1817.
1807 Ionian Islands given to Principality of Hellas from Russia
1821 Principality of Hellas starts its own War for Independence
1824-1826 Ottoman Empire sends Egyptian Army with Ibrahim to Hellas. The most fierce battles were fought in that period.
1828 Principality of Hellas becomes de facto Independent under Prince Ioannis Kapodistrias. New Constitution aprooved from Parliament
1832 Principality of Hellas is recognised officially as Independent in Treaty of London
1843-44 First large Consitution Revise
1853-56 Hellenic Principality declares neutrality for Crimean War and Prince Ioannis himshelf travels in Thessaly to calm down chieftains who wanted to free Thessaly.
Some would however fought in Crimea under Russian flag voluntary with their private armies. Russian Army had also Hellenic-origin troops since 18th century, organised in battalions.
1864 Principality is self raised to Kingdom under Kind Viaros II (nephew of Ioannis Kapodistrias)

Timeline 1864-1912

1865 New King of Hellas, Viaros II married the Princess Olga of Russia.
1867 First Balkan Alliance signed in Saint Petersburg
1866-69 Cretan Revolt : Hellas supported unofficially Cretans, some Army and Navy officers with small detaches fought in Crete together with voluntaries from mainland.
1870 Crete gains partial autonomy, under a new Ottoman law.
1875-78 Hellas supports official Serbia in their war with Ottomans and in 1877 declares war to Ottoman Empire under the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, attacking from south. Notable is the 1876 agreement between Hellas, Serbia and Montenegro.
1878 Hellas gains Thessaly and southern parts of Epirus and Makedonia under Treaty of Berlin.
1894-1908 Struggle for Makedonia.
1897 Another Cretan Revolt, this time for Independence. Hellenic Kingdom declared the "Principality of Crete", sending Prince Alexander II Feodorovich and one regiment under Colonel
Timoleon Vassos. This regiment participated in several battles in Crete fought in January 1897. Ottoman response was to declare war to Hellas and attacked from the north borders,
surprising government of Athens. Although quite well armed, Hellas was not ready for a large scale war and Hellenic Army defeated and crushed, retreating to south. Only colonel Constatine
Smolenskis and his unit managed to keep positions. Smolenskis became national hero and this catapulted him to Major General. Cretan Regiment ordered to withdrawn for reinforcing Hellenic Army
units in Athens, as government feared that Ottomans would soon reach Athens. Under severe pressure from Great Powers, Ottomans stopped their advance and retreat
in their previous positions.
1898 Cretan Principality established, de jure remaining under Ottoman suzerainty but de facto being under Hellenic control, governed by Alexios II Feodorovich.
1901 Under the 1899 White Paper, Hellenic Armed Forces were completely re-organized, including overhaul of command structure.
1912 Hellenic Kingdom enters Balkan Wars

1912-1913 Balkan Wars, several battles fought against Ottomans and Bulgarians. Treaty of Bucharest (1913) recognized significant gains in land of Hellas, including Aegean Islands

1915-18 Hellenic Kingdom enters WW1 (January 1915). Britain offered to give Cyprus in Hellas if latter enters the Great War. Hellas took also assistance from Entente to create strong military aviation, resulting in establishment of Sedes Air Training/Assembly Center near Thessaloniki in September 1915. France organized and trained the Hellenic Army Aviation and Britain the Naval Aviation. In the ill-fated Gallipoli Campaign Hellas sent one brigade and some ships. Later in year, Hellas sent reinforcements to Serbia. In following year Entente created the "Allied Front" in Balkans against Central Powers, supporting also Hellenic Army offensives in East Thrace, keeping pressure on Bulgarians and Ottomans. Progress was slow, due to fierce resistance and Entente failed in reaching Constantinople, which remained in Ottoman hands.

1918 Creation of Federal Kingdom of Yugoslavia. This is my AU Yugoslavia. After WW2 the Federal Kingdom became Socialistic Republic of Yugoslavia (AU).

1919-1923 Hellenic Kingdom gains all parts of the Thrace that Hellas managed to occupy during the war become part of the Kingdom, which reached now the Black Sea. In the west, Autonomous North Epirus also became part of Hellenic Kingdom. An exchange of populations between Ottoman Empire and Hellas also occur, with about 1 million Hellenic population (remaining in North Anatolia, known as Pontos) immigrated in Thrace and about half million Ottomans immigrated to Ottoman Empire. Some Hellenic origin Rumelians from north also immigrated south. In East Rumelia and North Makedonia settled many Vlachs, to live together with other Slavic speaking populations (with were though under Hellenic influence).

1925 After prolonged negotiations resulting from war-time agreement between British and Hellenic governments regarding future of Cyprus, the Despotate of Cyprus, dominated by Hellenes, but remaining under nominal British protectorate, has been finally established and ruled by Cypriot Church Archbishops until 1959. Britain expanded its military bases in Cyprus in mid-war, due to the significant strategic position of the island in East Mediterranean.

1930-1934 A Treaty of friendship signed between Hellas and Turkey (like in real world). In this AU scenario, long negotiations were made for the Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarchate of Constantinople starting in 1930 ended in 1935 establishing the Patriarchate State, an enclave in Constantinople city similar with Vatican in many ways (except size, Patriarchate State is smaller).

1936 Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits

1940-1941 - On 28 October 1940 Hellas is invaded by Italy attempting to expand it's domination in Central Mediterranean. Despite nominal superiority, poorly prepared and led Italian forces are stopped by better motivated and enjoying favorable terrain Hellenic troops. Subsequently Italians are being pushed back to Albania with great losses. At that time Britain proposed sending reinforcements to Hellas, but Athens, despite the strain of the war effort, refused. Reason was that Germany, for various reasons, preferred not to get involved in war in the Balkans, but would certainly react if any Allied troops arrived in the peninsula. At the same time, Italy, knowing that as long there aren't any British troops in Greece they can't expect direct German assistance, and with their army already badly beaten in North Africa from British Forces also, become ready to negotiate armistice with Hellas based on status quo ante. The Armistice between Hellas and Italy was signed in March 1941. The only large scale sea battle between Hellas and Italy was the Battle of Otranto Strait, in 22-23 November 1940. Hellas lost 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 1 submarine and BB Salamis was severely damaged. She received punishment and thought to be sunk (Italian newspapers wrote that next day that Regia Marina sunk a Hellenic battleship north of Corfu Island) but, Salamis' crew managed to take her south round Peloponnese directly to Neorion Shipyard, which had the only dockyard large enough to accommodate her for repairs. 8 months later, BB Salamis was ready for action.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: September 21st, 2016, 9:15 pm
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Sorry for asking but is this thread dead?

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: September 22nd, 2016, 4:43 pm
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No, of course not. It is not easy to re-invent history and now I am in the most difficult part.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: September 22nd, 2016, 8:08 pm
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Two issues: If you look at your country info, you write that the largest city is Thessaloniki, but when looking at the demographic chart, Athens is. Athens, of course can be BOTH the capital and largest city! Also, in your historical timeline, you mention a certain Viaros II. Aside from the odd-sounding name, who was Viaros I? I flatter myself having some advanced knowledge of Greek (and Balkan) history, but I cannot recall any character with that name.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: September 22nd, 2016, 9:20 pm
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Ioannis Kapodistrias had 3 brothers: Viaros, Augustine and George. In this scenario, Ioannis Kapodistrias was not assisinated, but lived until 1857. All brothers except George reign, Viaros only for just over a year. That was "Viaros I". Second Viaros supposed to was Augustine's son, name is indeed odd.

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