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Rhade
Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 19th, 2018, 1:22 pm
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The turrets are uniform.
How? The back of forward turret is clearly different from the back of rear turret.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 19th, 2018, 1:43 pm
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Rhade wrote: *
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The turrets are uniform.
How? The back of forward turret is clearly different from the back of rear turret.
I'm honestly really confused at what you are trying to point out.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 19th, 2018, 2:26 pm
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On a closer look, the Cora-class forward turrets are indeed different from the aft ones. The forward turrets have a sotr of "cut" in the upper back, while the aft ones appear to be more squared.
I admit I got initially confused because somehow I assumed Rhade was talking about the cruisers instead. Might be the case of misunderstanding.

Nice work anyway, the only point I could make is that the Princeton class stern below the waterline looks empty. Both the keel curve around the rudder and propeller struts seem to imply that the hull is extremely fine there, maybe even too much to fit the lower end of the barbettes or give proper buoyancy.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 19th, 2018, 2:53 pm
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Aye, Cora class.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 19th, 2018, 5:02 pm
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Rhade wrote: *
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Ahh! Yeah the forward turrets are rounded off so that the hedgehog can clear it when fired. This is present on USN destroyer escorts as well.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 25th, 2018, 7:19 pm
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Chiaki class destroyer

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The Chiaki class was a series of 82 destroyers built from 1318 to 1321, the largest class in the Antaran navy, and made up of three subclasses or batches. The design represented a divergence in doctrine from the previous Ember class, as she was designed solely for torpedo attacks, instead of the 'hybrid' doctrine that combined both destroyer hunting and torpedo attacks, though however Chiaki was still very well gunned for her time. The second part of the divergence came in the form of 'destroyer leaders' built alongside the Chiakis, intended to lead the destroyer flotillas and trade torpedo power for gunpower.

The class was known to be fairly well liked by her crews, owing mostly to good seaworthiness. As built Chiaki carried five 100mm/45s, two of which were mounted on her wings. She also carried a large torpedo armament of nine 533mm torpedoes, in three triple launchers, and four reloadable torpedoes. She had a modest speed of between 36 and 37.5 knots, with the speed generally being dictated on where the destroyer was built. Six shipyards built all 82 vessels.

Most of the first batch of Chiakis saw deployment and even some minor action in the Great War, commissioned in early 1319, as part of the Freyatic Fleet. Though following the end of the war, their service was less spectacular even if they were technically more active. The interwar period saw most members of the class being treated rather poorly, shipyards did not bother to repaint most of the vessels until they were needed again, and the only maintenance they received was mandatory - most saw no refits until the World War had already begun. It was policy for the navy to avoid using older ships in the Scyllic as they believed the Osorans posed a much larger threat than the Siegmarians, so quite a number of Chiakis served in the Freyatic Fleet in the WW, usually relegated to slow convoy escort and submarine hunting until they were further rendered obsolete by destroyer escorts. Around 20 were given to the Royal Navy in late 1342 under the Destroyers for Bases Agreement, and despite being old, they were also somewhat liked by their new Wesmeric owners. They were all put back into service as early as the following year.

The name ship of the class served in the Scyllic Fleet for the whole of the WW and remains the only vessel of her class to have been struck by a kamikaze, which is strange considering how rare a vessel of her age was in the later stages of the Scyllic War. Most Chiakis that served in the Scyllic would've been out of pure desperation to bring out anything to halt the Osoran advance.

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Hyder's original Great War camouflage scheme is still present after 20 years, albeit faded.

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HMS Winchester, named for the cities both the Wesmere and the Antarans have in common, was formally ARS Rose. She was moderately refitted before being put back into service in 1344. Her amidships AA platform was already present before she was leased.

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It wasn't common for the Chiakis to receive radar, being the oldest Antaran destroyer class in service. Cairncross also features DP 76mm guns, a gun also not particularly common, and hers were taken from another older vessel.

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Hanny outfitted as a carrier escort, with all of her original mounts being replaced with 40mm AA guns. As the navy avoided using them to directly fight other surface warships in the Scyllic, they were typically found escorting slow carriers whose sole purpose was ground support during the Scyllic island hopping campaign.

Displacement - 1200 tonnes
Speed - 36 to 37.5 knots (varies depending on yard)
Range - 5000nm at 14 knots
Armament - 5x1 100mm/45
Torpedoes - 3x3 533mm with 4 single reloads

Ships in class

Original batch (built 1317-1318)

Chiaki - sunk in action, 1319
Downs - scrapped, 1349
Townley - torpedoed, 1342
Dwain - scrapped, 1349
Maplewood - scrapped, 1949
Starlet - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1949
Shepard - scrapped, 1349
Henderson - scrapped, 1349
Hyder - scrapped, 1349
Grissam - scrapped, 1349
Bandy - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
F. Garcia - scrapped, 1349
Gleaves - scrapped, 1349
Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Mason - beached, 1344
Ponds - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Laffey - scrapped, 1348
Vanderson - torpedoed, 1344
Madox - scrapped, 1939
Eisman - scrapped, 1349
Colby - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1345
Winston - scrapped, 1349
D. Smith - torpedoed, 1343
Connally - scrapped, 1349
Lawsen - scrapped, 1349
Thatcher - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343
Wickerson - scrapped, 1349
Louw - scrapped, 1349
Grey - sunk in surface action, 1345

Deja batch (built 1319-1320)

Deja - scrapped, 1349
Scotts - scrapped, 1349
Johnston - sunk in surface action, 1344
Clarryton - torpedoed, 1943
Bailey - scrapped, 1349
Amor - scrapped, 1350
Perry - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1342
Jakes - rammed, 1343
Morgan - sunk in surface action, 1343
Williams - scrapped, 1349
Carter - scrapped, 1349
A. Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1342
Turner - scrapped, 1349
Caldwell - torpedoed, 1345
Thompson - torpedoed, 1343
J.E.Garcia - scrapped, 1349
Lopez - sunk in surface action, 1343
Rose - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Nicholas - scrapped, 1349
Lewis - scrapped, 1349
Knight - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343
Greywords - scrapped, 1349
Brummer - scrapped, 1349

Cullins batch (built 1320-1321)

Cullins - scrapped, 1349
Bane - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Chandler - scrapped, 1349
Walker - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Lee - scrapped, 1349
Higgins - scrapped, 1349
Hanny - torpedoed, 1342
Dylandy - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343
Umberto - scrapped, 1349
Carmine - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Nigiri - sunk in collision with U-boat, 1342
Mikihara - scrapped, 1349
Abrams - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343
Lucita - torpedoed, 1346
Yumeko - scrapped, 1349
Allsworth - torpedoed, 1342
E. Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, sold to USSR 1349
H. Smith - sunk in surface action, 1344
Marshal - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1344
Abella - torpedoed, 1342
Cairncross - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Davids - scrapped, 1349
Clark - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Bardace - scrapped, 1349
Marcus - Leased to Wesmere, sunk in surface action 1344
Jaya - sunk in surface action, 1343
Naia - scrapped, 1349
Harris - sunk by aircraft, 1345
Friedland - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349
Madelaine - scrapped, 1349
Brooklyn - scrapped, 1349

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 25th, 2018, 7:43 pm
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That's a lot of  underage loli boats and also the drawings are amazing as usual :D

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 25th, 2018, 7:56 pm
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The forward torpedo launcher is interesting. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that, but I can't think of a real-life ship that featured such an installation.

Quite hard to consider a WW1-era destroyer clocking a speed of 37.5 knots, even on trial, and calling that "modest"!!


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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 25th, 2018, 8:26 pm
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erik_t wrote: *
The forward torpedo launcher is interesting. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that, but I can't think of a real-life ship that featured such an installation.
The Japanese did it on the Kamikaze and Minekaze classes (and the following Mutsuki as well).

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: October 25th, 2018, 9:23 pm
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Not to mention whole horde of German destroyers/torpedoboot's.

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