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United Kingdom of Netherlands and Wallonia
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Capital: Amsterdam
National Languages: Dutch and French
Recognized Languages: English and German (65% Could speak both of the languages with ease)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Independence: From Spain 1581 26th July
Area: 76 657 km/2
Annual growth: 0,38%
GDP (nominal): $ 2.821 trillion
Currency: Euro (since 1997) Before: Dutch guilder
Time Zone: GMT+1
Drives on the: Right
Internet TLD: .HOL or .EU
calling code: +31
Defence Budget: $ 76.8 billion (76.875.845.000 ) 2.72% of GDP
-Air Forces 10.5 billion 13.67%
-Army 27 billion 35.16%
-Navy 41.3 billion 53.78%

Manpower (Active personel)
-Air Forces: 25,531
-Army: 134,135
-Navy: 92,432
(252,098 in total)

Coast guard 9,835
Police 101,542

Major cities (2020 estimate)
1 - Amsterdam 1,786,000
2 - Utrecht - 1,563, 000
3 - Luxemburg - 1,124,500
4 - Rotterdam 1,050,000
5 - Antwerpen - 875,000
6 - Hague 720,000
7 - Drenthe - 493,500
8 - Brussles - 425,000
9 - Groningen - 365,000
10 - Eindhoven - 294, 000
11 - Tilburg - 199,613
12 - Almere Stad - 176,432
13 - Breda - 167,673
14 - Nijmegen - 158,732
15 - Enschede - 145,655
16 - Haarlem - 135,500
17 - Luik - 125,000

Population
1400: 800,000
1450: 905,000
1500: 960,000
1550: 1,150,000
1600: 1,420, 000
1650: 1,825,000
1700: 2,100,000
1750: 4,700,000
1800: 4,650,000
1820: 4,100,000
1850: 7,500,000
1875: 10,000,000
1900: 14,200,000
1914: 14,800,000
1918: 16,500,000
1939: 20,000,000
1947: 21,800,000
2000: 31,000,000
2019: 34,000,000

Ethnic groups (1914)
58 % - Dutch
23.2% - Wallonians
9% - Germans
5% - French
2% - Asian
0.98% Spanish/Portuguese
0.9% - Jews
0.5% - Africans
0.4% - British
0.124% Slavs



Ethnic groups (2019)
50.4 % - Dutch
27.5% - Walloons
6.5% - Germans
6.2% - French
2.2% Asian (mostly Indonisians)
1% African
1% Spanish/Portuguese
0.6% - Jews
0.3% British
0.2% Slavs (Mostly Ukrainians)

Religion: Protestents, Catholics, Atheist.

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History
Part one focuses Netherlands and then United Kingdom of Netherlands and Wallonia in general from 1750 to 1945 in this topic
Part two will be focused on Dutch Royal Navy forces from 1892 to 1914
Part three 1914-1918 Dutch Royal Navy Participatian in The Great War (1914-1918)
Part four Interwar period (1918-1939)
Part five World War Two (1939-1945)
Part Six Cold War to Present day

Further history events to be finalized.

Dutch AU Royal Army will get their own articles in here


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Post subject: Re: United Kingdom of Netherlands and WalloniaPosted: August 17th, 2020, 3:30 pm
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Washngton Naval Treaty
United States of America, United kingdom, Empire of Japan, United Kingdom of Nethelands and Wallonia, French Republic, Kingdom of Italy.
Ratio: 5. 5. 3. 2.5. 1,75. 1,75. 1,25.

-United States of America: 479.500

Ships retained:
BB-20 Vermont 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1923)
BB-21 Kansas 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1923)
BB-22 Minnesota 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1923)
BB-25 New Hampshire 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1923)
BB-26 South Carolina 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1925)
BB-27 Michigan 16.000 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1925)
BB-28 Delaware 20.380 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1925)
BB-29 North Dakota 20.380 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB-30 Florida 21.825 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB-31 Utah 21.825 - To be demilitarized upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned in 1927, converted into a target ship)
BB-32 Wyoming 26.420
BB-33 Arkansas 26.420
BB-34 New york 27.000
BB-35 Texas 27.000
BB-36 Nevada 27.900
BB-37 Oklahoma 27.900
BB-38 Pennsylvania 29.626
BB-39 Arizona 29.626
BB-40 New mexico 32.000
BB-41 Mississippi 32.000
BB-42 Idaho 32.000
BB-43 Tennessee 32.300
BB-44 California 32.300
BB-46 Maryland 32.600

Allowed construction:
BB-45 Colorado 32.600 (completed 1923)
BB-48 West virginia 32.600 (completed 1923)
BC-1 Lexington (allowed to be rebuild to an Aircraft carrier, completed 1925)
BC-2 Saratoga (allowed to be rebuild to an Aircraft carrier, completed 1925)

-United Kingdom: 479.500

Ships retained:
BC Lion 26.270 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB Thunderer 22.500 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB King George V 23.400 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB Centurion 23.400 - To be demilitarized upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned in 1927, converted into a target ship)
BB Ajax 23.400 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1926)
BB Iron Duke 25.000
BB Marlborough 25.000
BB Benbow 25.000 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1927)
BB Emperor of india 25.000 - To be scrapped upon upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1927)
BB Queen elizabeth 27.500
BB Warspite 27.500
BB Valiant 27.500
BB Malaya 27.500
BB Barham 27.500
BB Resolution 25.750
BB Revenge 25.750
BB Royal oak 25.750
BB Royal sovereign 25.750
BB Ramilles 25.750
BC Tiger 28.500
BC Renown 26.500
BC Repulse 26.500
BC Hood 41.200

Allowed construction:
BB Nelson 33.950 (completed 1927)
BB Rodney 33.950 (completed 1927)

Final 506,850

-Empire of Japan: 410.000T

Ships retained:
BB Satsuma 19.372 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1925)
BB Aki 20.100 - To be scrapped upon replacement commissioning (decommissioned and scrapped 1925)
BB Settsu 21.433
BC Kongo 27.384
BC Hiei 27.384
BC Haruna 27.384
BC Kirishima 27.384
BB Fuso 29.800
BB Yamashiro 29.800
BB Ise 31.760
BB Hyuga 31.760
BB Nagato 34.116
BB Mutsu 34.116

Allowed construction:
BC Akagi (allowed to be rebuild to an Aircraft carrier, completed 1925)
BB Kaga 39.900 (allowed to be rebuild to an Aircraft carrier, completed 1925)
BC Amagi (completed in 1924)

Final 356,100



-United Kingdom of Nethelands and Wallonia: 295,000

Ships retained
BB Koning 16,000 - to be rebuild as coastal defence battleship in 1924
BB Koningin 16,000 - to be rebuild as coastal defence battleship in 1924
DACR/BC Voorzichtiheid 14,000 - to be rebuild as coastal defence battleship in 1925
BB De Ruyter 22,500
BB Tjerk Hiddes 25,500
BB Korenear 25,500
BB Piet Hein 25,500
BC Tijger 28,700
BC Leeuw 28,500
BC Panther 28,500
BB De Zwijger 31,000
BB Prins 31,000
BB Oranje-Nassau 31,000

Allowed construction:
BC Jachtluipaard 28,500 - (allowed to be rebuild to an Aircraft carrier, completed 1927)

Final: 280,000 (+15,000 tons for capital ship modernization)

-French Republic: 213.000T

Ships retained:
BB Voltaire 18.900
BB Diderot 18.900
BB Condorect 18.900
BB Coubret 23.500
BB Jean Bart 23.500
BB France 23.500
BB Paris 23.500
BB Provence 23.500
BB Lorrane 23.500
BB Bretagne 23.500

Final Total: 221.200T
New construction allowed to replace existing warships starting in 1933.

BB Regina Elena 12.600
BB Vittorio Emanuele 12.600
BB Roma 12.600
BB Napoli 12.600
BB Dante Alighieri 19.500
BB Leonardo da vinci 22.500
BB Giulio Cesare 22.500
BB Conte di Cavour 22.500
BB Caio Duilio 22.700
BB Andrea Doria 22.700

Final Total: 182.800T

1st London Naval Treaty

Ships to be demilitarized or scrapped:

United States of America:
BB-32 Wyoming to be scrapped or converted to training duties.

United kingdom:
BB Iron duke to be scrapped

Empire of Japan:
BB Settsu to be scrapped.
BC Hiei to be demilitarized and converted to training duties.

United Kingdom of Netherlands:
De Ruyter - to be demilitarized and converted to training duties.


Generic tonnage allowances:
Heavy cruisers:
USA 182.880
GB 149.149
HOL 120.500
JAP 110.134


Light cruisers:
USA 145.796
GB 195.275
HOL 120.000
JAP 102.057


Destroyers:
USA 152.400
GB 152.400
JAP 107.188
HOL 105.000

Submarines:
USA 53.543
GB 53.543
JAP 53.543
HOL 43.500


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Post subject: Re: United Kingdom of Netherlands and WalloniaPosted: August 17th, 2020, 3:31 pm
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History Part One

During the American War of Independence, the Dutch neither traded nor recognise the young United States of America. The Dutch only respected the upstart in 1788 to prevent a 4th Anglo-Dutch War.
In the 1790's, the Dutch established a colony in Cambodia, but when the French Revolution spread to the Netherlands, this colony was abandoned due to France seizing the Netherlands in 1804.
The Dutch goverment was exiled to Kaap (Cape) after which the British intervened and "rented" South Africa until 1816. During the Napoleonic Wars, the Dutch army and navy (vast majority of which consisted of Dutch settlers from Africa) fought fiercely during Peninsular War and Waterloo. As terms stated in the Vienna Congress, all Dutch colonies were given back while Flanders, Wallonia, and Luxembourg were awarded to the original United Provinces and called "The United Kingdom of Netherlands."
On November 14th 1830, King William the I died. A faction of Dutch officers and soldiers of Wallonian origin then started a revolt in order to proclaim a new Wallonian Republic. They planned to capture the parliament but were unable to capture it by the time parliament oathed to William II. On the evening of the 14th, government artillery hammered Wallonian rebels and essentially ended the revolt. In the following weeks, revolt leaders were executed. This was a heavy blow in Netherlands and was the first signal that the Netherlands needed to change their internal policy toward Catholics.
In 1832, a new constitution was accepted that reorganised the United Kingdom of the Netherlands to United Kingdom of the Netherlands and Wallonia, granting Catholics equal rights. Afterwards, a series of reforms were made: The Military Reform of 1835, the Agricultural Reform of 1836, The General Economic Reform of 1838 (this reform marks start of Industrialisation that focused on the Netherlands and Northern Flanders, while Wallonia remained agriculture-based until the 1900's).
During Crimean War, the United Kingdom of the Netherlands and Wallonia remained neutral but sold arms to France, Britain, and some Dutch politicians that criticized Russian expansionism. Later that decade, the Netherlands fought in Second Opium War along with Britain and France and were gifted the island of Hainan afterwards.

The slavery question began to take steam in 1845. In the United Netherlands and Wallonia, along with the rest of Europe paid close attention to the American Civil War, enlargening the slavery debate even further. On September 16, 1875, the UKNW abolished Slavery. While it solved some economic issues, Boers in South Africa were not keen on this specific reform. On July 24, 1878, they proclaimed a Boer Republic, but Kaap (Cape), the growing industrial and economical centre of South Africa, supported reform and stayed loyal to the Parliament. In response, a rebel Boer army besieged Kaap. The city was defended by 4 Colonial Battalions and defended for 45 days until they were finally relieved by the Dutch Regular army and pushed the Boers to the North despite sustaining heavy casulties.
This colonial revolt remained ongoing for 2 years and was a Pyrrhic Victory for the Netherlands because the Boers used guerrilla tactics and inflicted 43,000 losses with an additional 84,000 wounded or missing. The UKNW controlled the colony directly for the next decade until 1889, when the Dominion of South Africa was created.

After victories in the First and Second Opium Wars along with the Boer Expedition, the United Kingdom of Netherlands and Wallonia controlled a vast Empire and trade network. While their navy was successful in these conflicts, it was small and outdated by 1892. The Dutch also had no smokeless powder unlike their rivals, so in 1892 there were a series of Naval and Military Reforms, Reorganizations, and Rearmaments.
The navy got its hands on a modern battleship, but struck a mine and sank during exercises at Sarubaja in 1896. It became somewhat of a political scandal and afterwards forced the Dutch to shift to British contractors as their main ship builders. In the same year, the army had adopted the Lee-Navy (before that they had Remington-Lee and Veterlis in service) as their main service rifle and was reorgonised to British standards and was soon put to the test.
In 1900, the military's role in the Boxer Rebellion revealed themselves to be effective against somewhat organized Chinese units. The period of 1895-1914 could be characterized as an economic explosion of the Netherlands. Starting in 1886, Silk and Cotton factories were built in many corners of Empire. In 1902, after discovering oil in East Indies, Dutch Royal Shell was founded and began to export oil to other countries along with taking foreign orders in shipbuilding starting 1907. In 1901 Krupp constructed several of their steel factories in Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and even in South African Kaap, while exporting other good like cotton and silk products. Much money was spent to maintain the Navy and Army: nearly 40 percent of the treasury. On July 4 1914, the United Kingdom of Netherlands was invaded by the German Empire, violating their neutrality. The Dutch Army fought fiercely at Gelderland but were forced to retreat and relinquish a chunk of their land to Germans.
Their navy was ordered to be handed over to the British as both countries were concerned that Germany might capture Dutch ships and have equal nubers of ships against Britain's Royal Navy (the Dutch had 9 modern capital ships in 1914, the Germans ~16-18, while Britain had ~26-27 capital ships). But the Dutch were not defeated. The Dutch Army retreated to the Maas and its Amsterdam fortess. The city was surrounded and besieged by October 1914. 78,000 men were trapped in Amsterdam defending the capital, holding it until July 1915 when Amsterdam finally surrendered. The Dutch were nevertheless not fully defeated as their army still was holding down parts of the German 1st Army near Rotterdam and the Maas for the next two and a half years.
In 1916, Germany attempted to take the fortress city of Luik which held firm since September 1914. The battle lasted 8 months as 325,000 Dutch soldiers were killed while inflicting 750,000 losses on the Germans. It was later named "Dutch Verdun."
In the spring of 1918, the Germans launched a massive offensive against the Dutch and their allies and nearly captured Antwerp. The German forces were driven off after a combined Dutch-British-American counterattack which finally liberated Amsterdam and were pushing Germans back to Germany.
On November 11, 1918, the armistice was signed at Compiegne between Entente and Germany, marking the end of the war. The Treaty of Versailles which followed gave the Netherlands German land west of the Rhine river until Germany paid 9.5 Billion gold marks as reparations to the Dutch. The United Kingdom of Netherlands lost 1.7 million men in the war.
(Combat losses: 900,000 Dutch, 420,000 Colonial troops fighting in Europe and 400,000 civilian losses, in addition of Dutch resistance movement nearly destroying all Drente, Groningen, and North Holland industrial bases) The Dutch were devastated by the war and a famine in 1920 took the lives of a further 150,000 people. In the 1920's, the Dutch were forced to reduced their armed forces, unescaping the effects by both economic struggles and the Washington Naval treaty. As a result, many unfinished ships ended up scrapped. Despite this, the navy built their first aircraft carrier six years later.
In spite of economic struggles and the oncoming Great Depression, the Dutch Navy managed to rebuild their destroyer fleet and in the early 1930's started to modernize and build more capital ships. By 1939, the Dutch had a fleet of 135 destroyers, 22 light cruisers, 15 heavy cruisers, 3 battlecruisers, 7 battleships, 2 Fleet Aircraft carrieers, 4 Light Aircraft carrieers and 8 Escort carriers. The army was fully replenished and reorganized and had 160,000 men in their ranks and 300,000 in reserve.

In 1937, the United Kingdom of Netherlands and Wallonia began to favor the allies after Hitler annexed Czechoslovakia. On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland, and while Britain and France declared war on September 3rd, the UKNW declared war on September 12th. After a short "Phony War," Germany's 1940 offensive pushed the Dutch army to France while some 240,000 men were trapped in Antwerp. 189,000 of them were rescued and transferred to Britain, and the UKNW Goverment evacuated to Batavia. The Dutch fleet continued to fight alongside Allies where they heavily assisted British fleet in the Meditteranean and Atlantic, fighting mainly the Italian fleet. By 1941, Dutch were concerned on the Japanese. After Japan left London Naval Treaty, the Dutch were warning Britain and America to be wary in an effort to protect their East Indies holdings.
In November, the Dutch European fleet, with the addition of some British ships like Warspite, Repulse, and Renown were send to East Indies to help Dutch Pacific and Australian Fleets in a possible Japanese attack, which indeed happened in December 1941, following Attack on Pearl Harbor, Attack on Philippines, and the Invasion of British and Dutch holdings in Southeast Asia. The Japanese counted to defeat Dutch fleet quickly and decisively, even breaking their codes after capturing the old cruiser Sumatra after she run aground, and as a result, the Japanese sunk the battlecruiser Panther two days later. The Dutch undestood their codes were broken but were able to break Japanese codes the day after Panther was sunk and used it to the full their extent to drive the Japanese out. They began sending false massages and sent a small force of capital ships to Sulawesi.
The Japanese reacted by sending all their capital ships available at the area. The Battle of Sulawesi on December 14th, 1941, saw the Japanese defeated, losing two battlecruisers (Hiei and Kirishima), one battleship (Fuso), and four heavy cruisers, six light cruisers, and 27 destroyers. The Dutch-British fleet only lost one battleship (Van Der Hagen), two heavy cruisers, two light cruisers, and six destroyers. In 1942, the Dutch Fleet and Marine Corps landed with US Marines and the Australian army on Guadalcanal and were fighting the Japanese in New Guinea. In Africa, a small Dutch Expedionary Force was fighting Erwin Rommel in Africa alongside British troops. In 1943, the US liberated the Philippines and relieved two Divisions of Dutch troops in Hainan after being isolated for two years. On June 6, 1944, US, British, Canadian and Dutch Forces landed in Normandy and later liberated Paris. In September 1944, Japan surrendered, while Germany was fighting alone on two fronts.
On March 14 and 17, 1945, Atomic bombs were droped Hamburg and Munich resulted death of 1.8 million Germans combined. Post-war United Kingdom of Netherlands was once again struggling economically and sent most of their fleet in reserve, later scrapping it all with exceptions of the battlecruiser Tijger and battleship De Zwijger (preserving both as museums). The 60,000 ton Republik was in construction since 1937, launched in in start of 1940, its hull was evacuated in 1940 to Britain, and was finally commisioned in 1945. After the war, the Dutch gave independence to Indonesia and South Africa but made a deal that they stay in a commonwealth of the Netherlands and recognise their monarch as theirs (like the British commonwealth).

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Nice work on the history and the overview. Looking forward to see the drawings!


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Post subject: Re: United Kingdom of Netherlands and WalloniaPosted: August 17th, 2020, 9:47 pm
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Very interresting, but i think you should explain a bit more how france could still be defeated if a combined dutchland and belgium was « actively » involved on the allied side since the begining of the war. One of the main reason of the french collapse was that the best allied units went ahead « to the rescue » of dutch and belgian, straight into the trapp ( as the german planned ).If they have been yet well established on the german border, they probably could have better reacted to the german offensive into the Ardennes.........

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waritem wrote: *
Very interresting, but i think you should explain a bit more how france could still be defeated if a combined dutchland and belgium was « actively » involved on the allied side since the begining of the war. One of the main reason of the french collapse was that the best allied units went ahead « to the rescue » of dutch and belgian, straight into the trapp ( as the german planned ).If they have been yet well established on the german border, they probably could have better reacted to the german offensive into the Ardennes.........
Wll this is currently in process since Im focusing on The Navy and The Great War at the moment but definately France wasn't defeated so esily in this timeline, 2 months for sure


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Pre-Drednought Battleships

Maurits-class Pre Drednought (1896)
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12,253 tons standard, 12,919 tons full load
Length - 121.8 meters, Beam - 21 meters, draught - 8.2 meters
Armaments 2x2 12" 45 cal (305 mm) gun, 4x1 8" (203 mm) guns, 12x1 4.7" (120 mm) casamte mount guns, 16 3" (76 mm) casamte mount guns, 8 1.7" (45 mm) deck mount quick firing guns, 6 15" (381 mm) submurged tubes, 3 on either sides.

Armor: Main belt 17" (420 mm (regular Steel)) 75 m , Edns - 8" (203 mm), Upper belt - 7" (180 mm), Deck - 2" (51 mm)
Turret armor: 13" (330 mm) sides: 8" (200 mm), conning tower 13" (330 mm), turret armor - 13" (330 mm)
speed and machinery: 2 shafts, 2 shafts, coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines 8,374 ihp = 16 knots
range 5,500 nm at 8 knots
complement 595-785 men


Design and Service History

In 1892 Dutch approved Naval expansion programme where 2 ships were authorized to be constructed. French yards were choosen and 2 ships: Maurits and Frederik Hedrik were laid down in June 1892, Launched in September 1894 and commisioned in January 1896, Maurits was send to East Indies, and Frederik Hedrik remained in Europe. In April 16 1896 exercises were conducted in east Indies and on 20th Maurits struck a mine near Sarubaja, and sunk with 534 crew out of 745 men on board. Invistigation was carried out and it was found that tumblehome the design has serious issues with survivability. Tumblehome designs have a much lower righting force acting on them than a flared hull. This means that a tumblehome design is much more vulnerable to capsize. Tumblehome designs have difficulties operating in bad weather, with a considerably higher risk of capsize than a flared design. This also strongly reduces the ship's resistance to underwater damage. Any flooding of the ship will reduce the stability to the point of capsize, while a conventional design will be much more resistant to such damage. It also had limited reserve buoyancy - by reducing the hull volume above the waterline, there was little extra volume to keep it afloat when compartments below the waterline flooded (In fact there was long term concern on tumblehome hull design in Dutch Navy but majority of higher echelon of the Admiralty were not paying attention to other part of Admiralty which complained on this particular choice).
in 1913 Frederik Hedrik was put into reserve but was out of reserve in 1914 and in 1915 was send into Convoy escort duties and immediately scrapped after end of the war.

Evertsen-class
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12,904 tons standard, 15,651 tons full load
length: 120 m, beam - 23 m, Draught 8.5 m
Armaments 2x2 12" 45 cal (305 mm) guns, 10x1 5" (120 mm) guns, 8x1 3" (76 mm) casemate mount guns, 4 15" (381 mm) torpedo tubes.
Armor: main Belt - 10" (254 mm (Harvey Steel)), ends 3" (76 mm), upper belt: 5" (130 mm), Deck 1" (25 mm)
Turret armor: face: 12" (305 mm), sides 6" (152 mm)
Conning tower: 12" (305 mm)
speed and machinery: 2 shafts, coal fire boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines 12,435 ihp = 16 knots
range 5,500 at 8 knots
complement 497-720 men

Design and Service History
After Investigation of sinking of HrMS Maurits there was huge political scandal in UKNW and it was decided to build ships in Britain. Those ships were heavily influenced by Majestic-class but was slightly lightly armed - having 5" guns instead of 6" but was more armoured which became feature in comparsion to British Pre Drednought battleships. 2 ships were ordered and laid donw in 1896 September, Evertsen and re-used name Maurits. Both ships saw extencive duty in The Great War and both were sunk, Evertsen by German U-boat in December 5 1915 and Maurits would be sunk by German mine in July 1916.

Eendracht-class Pre Drednought (1899)
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13,000 tons standard, 16,498 t full load
Length - 125 m, beam 23 m, draught, 9.3 m
Armaments: 2x2 12" 45 cal (305 mm) guns, 16x1 6" (152 mm) casemate mount guns, 8 3" (76 mm) deck mount guns, 4 15" (381 mm) torpedo tubes 2 on either sides.
Armor: Main belt - 10" (254 mm (Harvey Steel)), ends - 3" (76 mm), upper belt - 152 mm, armoured deck - 3" (76 mm)
Turret armor: 10" (254 mm), sides 8" (203 mm)
speed: 2 shafts, coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines 13,846 ihp = 18 knots
range 5,500 nm at 10 knots
complement: 682-855 men

Design and Service History

Heavily influenced by British Canopus-class and carried 16 6" (152 mm) guns in and were more armoured comparision to their British predecesor. 5 ships were laid down in 1896 and were named after Dutch 17th century ships of the line: Eendracht, Hollandia, Stad en Lande, Veere, Jupiter, all commisioned in 1899 with exception of Hollandia which was finished at November of 1898, so in some sources she this class is mentioned as Hollandia-class. Hollandia became Flagship until it was replaced by De Zeven Provincien in 1902. All ships had extesive duty during The Great War: chasing Maximilian Von Spee's squadron, supporting British, French, Dutch (which was mostly consisted of South African or Indonesian troops), Australian and New Zeeland landings at Gallipoli, Blockade of Ottoman Navy and convoy Duty in 1915, only Veere and Eendracht were sunk, Veere by Turkish mine (or torpedo) at Gallipoli and Eendracht sunk by German U-boat in October 1916 at South Irish coast. After the war Jupiter and Hollandia were converted into Barracks ships and Stad en Lande scrapped in 1920.

De Zeven Provincien-class
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13,800 tons standard, 15,200 tons full load.
Length - 130 m, Beam - 23 m, Draught - 9.2 m
Armaments: 2x2 12"/45 cal (305 mm) guns, 2x1 8" (203 mm) guns, 16x1 6" (152 mm) casemate mount guns
6x1 casemate mount guns, 4 15" (381 mm) guns
Armor: main belt - 10" (254 mm (Krupp steel)), ends - 3" (76 mm), upper belt - 6" (152 mm)
Turret armor: 10" (254 mm) 9" (229 mm) sides. Conning tower: 12" (305 mm)
speed and machinery: coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines 12,954 ihp = 18 knots
range 5,500 nm at 10 knots
complement 718 men

Design Service History
In 1899 Dutch Admiralty decided that they wanted ships with slightly heavier battery and decided to exeperemrnt with 8" close barbette mount guns, Vickers became contractor; 3 ships were ordered: De Zeven Provincien was laid down in Amsterdam becoming first modern capital ship constructed in Netherlands and latter 2 - Prins te Paard, Zeelandia were build in Britain. Prins te Paard served in East Indies and later Mediterranean fleet along with British, supporting landings in Gallipoli, wast her sisters served in Europe and were used as guard ships when Drednought battleships and battlecruisers were at Anchor. De Zeven Provincien and Zeelandia were present In Battle of Jutlandbut havent accomplished anything. After the war they had better fate as their predecessors converted into coastal defence battleships (with exception of Prins te Paard which wa converted into Barracks ship) but were scrapped as Washington Naval Treaty came into conclusion.

Koning-class
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16,668 tons standard, 18,494 t full load
Length - 138 m, beam 24,7 m, Draught - 8.2 m
Armament: 2x2 12" 45 cal (305 mm) guns, 4x2 8" (203 mm) guns, 8x1 6" (152 mm) casemate mount guns, 4 15" (381 mm) torpedo tubes.
Armor: Belt 12" (305 mm) Ends 3" (76 mm), Upper belt 6" (152 mm), Deck 2" (51 mm), Turret armor: face - 12" (305 mm), sides 9" (229mm) Conning tower: 12"-6" (305-152 mm).
speed and machinery: coal oil fired boilers (changed to mix fired in 1913), complex reciprocating steam engines, 20,944 ihp = 19.5 knots
range 5,500 nm at 10 knots
complement 766-985 men

Design and Service History
in June 1905 after Battle of Tsushima, Dutch concluded that capital ships need more heavier secondary battery and competion was made for "17,000 Modern Battleship" at August several designs were inspected Cammell Laird proposed battleship with 16,600 tons, 2x2 12" guns, 4x2 8" belt armor of 11" and speed 20 knots, Birkenhead deleted their 8" secondary armamanent and replaced them with 4x2 12", armor was 12" and speed standard 18 knots, latter design was dropped due of the cost and 1st design was choosen although it was improoved later. In August 24th 1905 two ships were laid down: Koning and Koningin, Koning was launched in September 1906 and Koningin in Late October 1906 both commisioning in June 1907. ships were slower and less armed then British newly build HMS Drednought but it was better armoured and they were at least better armed and faster then any other Pre Drednought with exception of Danton class. Both ships had active duties in the First World War and participated in Battle of Jutland, and acomplished a lot more then De Zeven Provincienes sinking SMS Stuttgart. Afterwards they were sent to Mediterranean sea. After the war they were converted into coastal defence battleships as a conclusion of Washington Naval Treaty. In World War 2 They were guarding East Indies and escorting Dutch troop transports in Borneo. they were finally scrapped in 1947
(All ships will get their full article in shipbucket wiki)


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Post subject: Re: United Kingdom of Netherlands and WalloniaPosted: August 18th, 2020, 8:51 am
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That Koning class looks strangely familiar. I can't quite place the design.


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Post subject: Re: United Kingdom of Netherlands and WalloniaPosted: August 18th, 2020, 9:10 am
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I'm not going to comment on the drawing, but the credit line.

Usually we have a uniform credit line, it would look like this:

Country of origin, class name year predicted
Ship name,
Ship type
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