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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:56 am 
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Rowdy, you DEG is a very smart-looking ship, a real eye pleaser. However (there's always one after a little flattery! 8-) ;) ) I'd raise both funnels (or macks), some six-eight feet to clear the bridge and the close-by electronics from potential hot fumes. I'd also save some displacement by discarding the aft mast tripod, and instead set the SPS-52 on a platform in front of the funnel casing a la the Audaces. This makes me itch to post my creations too, though... :D


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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:42 pm 
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There is always a 'but'... :lol:
Thanks, I see what you mean, I'll have a look at it and see how it turns out. I look forward to seeing your creations too :)

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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:18 pm 
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Decided to drop the Dewey class and made a new one. This is the Fletcher class DEG.

Fletcher class DEG (later FFG)

Length: 112,3 meters at wl, 121,3 meters oa.
Beam: 12 meters.
Draft: 5 meters, with sonar 7 meters.
Displacement: 3300 tons standard, 4500 tons fully laden.
Propulsion: Two Westinghouse steam turbines producing 70,000 shp driving one propeller.
Speed: 33,5 knots fully laden, 35 kts at standard displacement.
Range: 4000 nm at 20 kts.
Aviation facilities: 1 hangar for 1 Kaman SH2-Seasprite.

Sensors:
1 AN/SPS-10 surface search radar.
1 AN/SPS-37 air search radar.
1 AN/SPS-39 3D air search radar.
3 AN/SPG-51 Tartar fire control radar.
1 AN/SPG-53 gun fire control radar.
1 Hull mounted SQS-52 sonar and 1 SQS-19 towed sonar array.

Armament:
1*5"/54 Mk 42 gun.
2*Otobreda 76mm compact (optional.)
1*MK 13 GMLS for Rim-24 Tartar.
1*Mk 16 box launcher for RUR-5 ASROC (optional.)
2*Mk32 triple SVTT.
4*Browning M2HB HMG.

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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:23 am 
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So far my only concern is topweight, (thinking of dropping the bridge structure down a level but this would be at expense of visibility forwards). Though it now comes 250 tons underweight fully loaded so the diet was worth it

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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:56 am 
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I'd go ahead and drop the bridge a level, fair the forward mack in the bridge and maybe even drop the aft Mk 11. You will also not be able to fit an ASROC reload magazine through your aft mack :P


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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:11 am 
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It also looks like your aft missle luncher would take out your ships small boat when it was fired.


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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:59 pm 
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Here is my entry for this challenge. Since it's my double-first (first personal design and first major warship on SB except for generic sketches for Beginners Forum) I guess that the reviews will be probably rather very critical. ;)

More observant of You will perhaps notice that this drawing is a derivative of this drawing:
viewtopic.php?p=65592#p65592

Indeed, the idea is that it's supposed to be a follow-on design to an earlier conventional general-purpose/ASW destroyer.

Name of that thread will also explain You why it's named Volcano. ;)
(Initially the ASW variant was to be "Volcano" - to fit to "DD Krakatau" thread where it was born - and the AAW "Tsunami", but since volcano's fire into the sky is more fitting to the AAW ship I switched their order ;) )

So, Gentlemen, I present You anti-aircraft escort ship: DDG Volcano!

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Lenght: 130,2m (427ft) overall
Beam: 13,5m (44,5ft)
Draught - normal 4,7m (15,5ft) / 6,9 (22,5ft)
Draught - heavy 5,2m (17ft) / 7,3 (24ft)
Displacement: 3600 tons / 4200 tons full
Propulsion: 4 boilers, 2 steam turbines (70.000 shp), 2 shafts
Speed 33 kn
Range: 3.600nm at 20kn

Armament:
2 x I x Mk42 5"/54 calibre guns
2 x I x Bofors L70 AAA guns
2 x III x Mk32 SVTT 324mm torpedo tubes
1 x II x Mk11 GMLS (RIM-24 Tartar)
1 x VIII x Mk112 launcher (RUR-5 ASRoc)

Sensors:
AN/SPS-10 surface search radar
AN/SPS-12 2D air search radar
AN/SPS-39 3D air search radar
AN/SPG-51 missile fire control radar
AN/SPG-53 gun control radar
AN/SQS-23 sonar


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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:53 pm 
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I really like it! u may or may not to be able to even fit a reloader for the ASROC behind it but I'll leave that to the experts

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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:46 pm 
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He isn't specifying a reloader so it's good.

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 Post subject: Re: Tartar DEG challenge
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:54 am 
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Thats also really nice looking desing. I would personally perhaps replace the Asroc with some ligther ASW rocket system (Bofors??) but thats just me...

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