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Author: | Gollevainen [ October 16th, 2010, 8:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
Finnish Arado eh? |
Author: | moxica [ October 16th, 2010, 8:48 am ] |
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Yeah that Finnish Arado was "longterm borrowed" during a fleet visit to Finland The reason why I put it there was that I was tired and didnt find any other suitable plane but now I will of course replace the Arado with a more suitable choice for a British ship |
Author: | moxica [ October 16th, 2010, 12:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
Where can I find a Walrus plane?? |
Author: | BrockPaine [ October 16th, 2010, 2:50 pm ] | |
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Where can I find a Walrus plane??
Here's one on the Valiant; I didn't find the Walrus on the Aircraft sheets.
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Author: | Novice [ October 16th, 2010, 11:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
Or you can go for the Fairy III,http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?di ... rAjax1.png |
Author: | eltf177 [ October 17th, 2010, 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
Took a shot at doing it up in SS... *************************************** Moxica, UK Battleship laid down 1942 Displacement: 67,097 t light; 70,791 t standard; 74,714 t normal; 77,853 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 1,001.22 ft / 985.00 ft x 109.00 ft (Bulges 129.00 ft) x 28.00 ft (normal load) 305.17 m / 300.23 m x 33.22 m (Bulges 39.32 m) x 8.53 m Armament: 12 - 16.00" / 406 mm guns (4x3 guns), 2,048.00lbs / 928.96kg shells, 1942 Model Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes) on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring 16 - 5.25" / 133 mm guns (8x2 guns), 72.35lbs / 32.82kg shells, 1942 Model Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes) on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring 126 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (21x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1942 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, 18 raised mounts 68 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (34x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1942 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts 20 - 0.66" / 16.8 mm guns (5x4 guns), 0.14lbs / 0.06kg shells, 1942 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts Weight of broadside 25,998 lbs / 11,793 kg Shells per gun, main battery: 150 Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 16.00 ft / 4.88 m Ends: 8.00" / 203 mm 100.00 ft / 30.48 m 14.00 ft / 4.27 m 385.00 ft / 117.35 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 10.0" / 254 mm 300.00 ft / 91.44 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m Main Belt covers 78 % of normal length - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges: 1.00" / 25 mm 850.00 ft / 259.08 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 12.0" / 305 mm 16.0" / 406 mm 2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - - 4th: 0.25" / 6 mm - - - Armour deck: 6.00" / 152 mm, Conning tower: 16.00" / 406 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 219,634 shp / 163,847 Kw = 30.00 kts Range 9,000nm at 15.00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 7,062 tons Complement: 2,259 - 2,937 Cost: £37.428 million / $149.712 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3,250 tons, 4.3 % Armour: 26,347 tons, 35.3 % - Belts: 7,869 tons, 10.5 % - Torpedo bulkhead: 629 tons, 0.8 % - Armament: 7,386 tons, 9.9 % - Armour Deck: 9,852 tons, 13.2 % - Conning Tower: 611 tons, 0.8 % Machinery: 5,738 tons, 7.7 % Hull, fittings & equipment: 31,512 tons, 42.2 % Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7,618 tons, 10.2 % Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 0.3 % Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 136,916 lbs / 62,104 Kg = 66.9 x 16.0 " / 406 mm shells or 19.6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14 Metacentric height 7.3 ft / 2.2 m Roll period: 20.0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.28 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck Block coefficient: 0.735 Length to Beam Ratio: 7.64 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 31.38 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18.00 degrees Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length): - Stem: 34.52 ft / 10.52 m - Forecastle (20 %): 32.97 ft / 10.05 m - Mid (50 %): 30.97 ft / 9.44 m - Quarterdeck (15 %): 28.97 ft / 8.83 m - Stern: 28.97 ft / 8.83 m - Average freeboard: 31.14 ft / 9.49 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.2 % - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 231.2 % Waterplane Area: 88,756 Square feet or 8,246 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 % Structure weight / hull surface area: 243 lbs/sq ft or 1,187 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1.04 - Longitudinal: 1.00 - Overall: 1.01 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Miscellaneous weight includes a rotating catapult amidships plus a crane for one floatplane (no hanger). |
Author: | moxica [ October 17th, 2010, 11:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
Thank you Seems like my ship isnt that bad, I am working on a modernised version of it at the moment |
Author: | moxica [ October 18th, 2010, 12:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
I made a new ship for my fleet based on the idea that during WW2 Britain constructed ships thrue the lend&lease program. I give you all the Colonial Class cruiser Its not yet fully finished but it gives an idea about how it will look |
Author: | Novice [ October 18th, 2010, 6:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My first attempt is ready |
That ship is too short. The forcastle will be wet, end completely unworkable in any sea bu a dead calm. The stern also is too short. Depth of the hull, maybe is enough for the rear most gun turret, but the hull is too deep, which means drag. I'm guessing around 25 kts at full power (in dead calm), not enough speed. Position of the aft mast is bad, as smoke from the funnel will play havock with the radar atop it, through corrosion, and smut which will obscure the radar (many false echoes at that time, with WW2 radar technology, even allowing for metric wave-lengh). Please note that the 40mm guns (quadruple mountings as you drew) had a dedicated gun director, which is missing. That's about all for now, other than the attempt is a good start IMHO. |
Author: | Portsmouth Bill [ October 18th, 2010, 7:58 am ] |
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I liked the earlier, single funelled project; and yes, Novice has pointed out some areas for improvement. Incidentally; 'Lend Lease' was not, nor could be, a program that would permit the building of ships in other than U.S. yards: that was the point of it. |
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