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ezgo394
Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 3rd, 2012, 9:22 pm
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Ok. From looking at your ship, I am seeing AA QF 3 inch guns like the 8 I already have, and I'm also seeing what looks to be a 4 in Mk V gun. Is the 4" Mk V the one you were refering to when you said anti-torpedo boat guns?

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 12:38 am
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Exactly. By the time that particular ship was commissioned you're already seeing some early AA guns, but anti-torpedo boat guns were also still in prominence (they eventually got merged into DP guns).


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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 12:57 am
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How many do you think will be enough? As of now, I have put 8. Could it make sense to put one or 2 on the forward bow and stern?

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 1:49 am
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Ok, I just went ahead an put 2 on the bow and stern. Here's what I got.
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If y'all think it looks good, then I am going to start on the 1922 refit.

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 2:16 am
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A ship this size you can easily get away with double-figures, like maybe a dozen per side.

Both of the superstructure islands still strike me as under-detailed. Consider putting in more decks, railings, etc.


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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 2:39 am
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Ok. I'll put some more on.
Concerning the superstructures, I guess I could put some more decks in, and open it up a little.

For the 1922 refit, could a 16 "triple turret superfiring over a quadruple turret be possible for the time period? I know the King George V BB had twin superfiring over quads, but it was built 1939 I believe.

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 6:56 am
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Ok, I added more 4" guns and added a few decks.
I'm hoping to call this complete.

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For now, I think I'm just going to skip the 22 refit, until later on and start on the 1931 refit (that's when it gets turned into a carrier).

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 8:23 pm
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Ok. Still, a heavy WIP, but now it is at a more believeable size!
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As with any downsizing, I had to get rid of some stuff (most notably the bowling alley and the McDonalds :lol: ) but I think this will be more feasible.


Excalibur, United States of Denton BattleCruiser laid down 1912 (Engine 1913)

Displacement:
34,363 t light; 36,495 t standard; 38,363 t normal; 39,857 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
800.00 ft / 775.00 ft x 105.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
243.84 m / 236.22 m x 32.00 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
4 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all aft, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns in single mounts, 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 15,382 lbs / 6,977 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 200.00 ft / 60.96 m 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
175.00 ft / 53.34 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3.00" / 76 mm 180.00 ft / 54.86 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
Main Belt covers 79 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
6.00" / 152 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 6.00" / 152 mm
2nd: 12.0" / 305 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 6.00" / 152 mm
3rd: 6.00" / 152 mm 6.00" / 152 mm -

- Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 71,250 shp / 53,153 Kw = 25.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,362 tons

Complement:
1,369 - 1,781

Cost:
£3.209 million / $12.835 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,923 tons, 5.0 %
Armour: 13,068 tons, 34.1 %
- Belts: 4,423 tons, 11.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,776 tons, 4.6 %
- Armament: 2,372 tons, 6.2 %
- Armour Deck: 4,203 tons, 11.0 %
- Conning Tower: 294 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 2,792 tons, 7.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,581 tons, 43.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,999 tons, 10.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
68,052 lbs / 30,868 Kg = 49.6 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 12.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 7.4 ft / 2.3 m
Roll period: 16.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.63
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.54

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 45.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Quarterdeck (13 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m before break)
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 23.75 ft / 7.24 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 197.5 %
Waterplane Area: 56,791 Square feet or 5,276 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs/sq ft or 1,019 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.04
- Longitudinal: 1.49
- Overall: 1.07
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 8:34 pm
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i was prefering the big one but lets see what you do ;) i'm curious about the carrier

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Post subject: Re: Personal BattlecruiserPosted: March 4th, 2012, 8:46 pm
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I'm turning the small one into the carrier. I'm done with that big one. It's just too big. It's still one of my favorites though :D .

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