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Author:  Paul Carl [ July 25th, 2012, 11:40 am ]
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thank you acelancelot
Author:  acelanceloet [ July 25th, 2012, 11:57 am ]
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@odysseus1980: read the first post, about credit lines -.-
this is an own design challenge, not an 'edit the existing'
Author:  Paul Carl [ July 26th, 2012, 1:43 am ]
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Here is my first submission to something like this. I would appreciate any comments to improve this. It is sort of a mix of Charles F. Adams and a Canadian DDE
But here it is!
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Anishnabe Nation
Nation Class
Guided Missile Destroyer Escort DEG
4 Built 1962 to 1965
ANS Abenaki DEG 170 - Commissioned 1964
ANS Wendot DEG 171 - Commissioned 1965
ANS Odawa DEG 172 - Commissioned 1966
ANS Mississauga 173 - Commissioned 1967

Displacement: 4400 tonnes
Dimensions: 125 m (L), 14.5 m (W), 4.5 m (D)
Propulsion: 2 x Westinghouse Steam Geared Steam Turbines, 2 shafts
Top speed: 33 knots
Range: 5000 NM
Aircraft: N/A
Complement:340
Radar & Sonar:1 AN/SPS-6 Air search Radar
1 AN/SPS-10 Surface Search Radar
1 x AN/ SPS 39 3 D Air Search Radar
2 x AN/SPG-51 Tartar Fire Control Radar
2 x SPG-48 Director with Mk. 69 Gunnery Control System
1 x Sperry Mk.2 Navigation Radar
1 x SQS-502 Limbo Mortar Hull Mounted Control Sonar
1 x SQS-503 Hull Mounted Search Sonar
Armament: 1 Mk 13 single arm missile launcher for RIM-24 Tartar SAM system
2 x 3"/70 caliber MK 6 Vickers Twin mount gun
1 x RUR-5 ASROC Launcher
2 x Mk.32 triple Torpedo launchers
1 x Mk NC 10 Limbo Triple Barrel ASW Mortars
2 x 40mm/60 Bofors guns
Author:  Trojan [ July 26th, 2012, 2:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tartar DEG challenge
outdated MK.13 and possibly other parts that I am not aware of
I like it a lot though!
Author:  Rodondo [ July 26th, 2012, 5:54 am ]
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Author:  heuhen [ July 26th, 2012, 7:12 am ]
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That ship will be alot heavier than 5000 tons (challeng max weight 5000 tons) I bet she will be more like 10000 tons, and that without calculating!
Author:  Rodondo [ July 26th, 2012, 8:11 am ]
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While I agree it needs to go on a diet, I figure it's only 500 tons over weight

EDIT after some tinkering, it comes under 5000 tons (max) (142.98*15m*5.48m*0.423 CB)
Author:  heuhen [ July 26th, 2012, 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tartar DEG challenge
the point of a warship is to be as effective as possible to it size.

with that size you need bigger engine to get 30 knots (a lot of weight), then you have the weight of weapon and radar. so 5000 tons NO. it is not always when calculating with (L*B*D*CB gives the correct displacement, for example my boat, if you calculated it this way you will get around 3000 tons. but I use a software where I design the hull in and that one tells me that it is about 4800 tons.

you'r ship will most likely be around 7000 tons at the moment. (CB of 0.423 is what cabin cruiser or small flybridge boat is working whit, what you want is 0.50)
Author:  Paul Carl [ July 26th, 2012, 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tartar DEG challenge
Trojan wrote:
outdated MK.13 and possibly other parts that I am not aware of
I like it a lot though!
there i finally found what i hope is the most updated Mk. 13 launcher
Author:  heuhen [ July 26th, 2012, 12:15 pm ]
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Paul Carl wrote:
Trojan wrote:
outdated MK.13 and possibly other parts that I am not aware of
I like it a lot though!
there i finally found what i hope is the most updated Mk. 13 launcher
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