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Post subject: Re: Utopian Wars - pre-designsPosted: February 19th, 2016, 11:57 am
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Does using FAC/Cruiser navy actually save you any crew v a single class of FFs ?

What crew size are you thinking ? FACs 26-36, M frigates 150-180, your cruiser 300+ ? (thinking lots of guns will eat crew)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepard-cl ... tack_craft 36
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamina-class_missile_boat 26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Doo ... ss_frigate 154
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audace-class_destroyer 380
1 CG + 5FACs = 3 FF theoretically for crew ?

If you are fighting defensively do you even need the CG ? close to home the FACs could operate under land based command and air force fighter cover very effectively (and cheaper).

(hope this isn't to critical I'm just bored and wish somebody would start a new design challenge to distract me from what I should be working on :lol: )


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Post subject: Re: Utopian Wars - pre-designsPosted: February 19th, 2016, 12:35 pm
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ah, there are harpoons on board so she has that :P
brown water is not the limitation, it is the operation area it is designed for. the PG's are not oceangoing, no, but they are certainly seagoing.

btw fox, let's keep the discussion now to the vessels I posted :P I have an quite large AU work in progress behind the scenes, and the fleet production plan is set quite a bit, but I opened this thread out of the AU section for the sake of improving invidual designs before I have the entire AU ready ;)

JSB, all the gun mountings themselves are remote control, only the mechanism below requires crew. the numbers are not as extreme as on the earlier audace class, the ship is yet unfinished but I am thinking between 170 and 230 crew for the cruiser. as is noted in the first post, the PG has 25 crew. also, there will be only a maximum of 8 FAC PG's build, so that is 8*25 = 200 crew. 2 cruisers, that is say, 400 crew. for that I could man 3-4 frigates.

in a war situation the FAC and cruiser operate together, however in peacetimes the FAC's are defence and the cruisers can do the 'showing the flag' duties etc the FAC's are not suitable for due to their small size. the small size makes them easier to keep in operation and cheaper to operate for that reason. due to this, and the fact that 3 ships can not cover the same amount of sea when required, this fleet is not equal at all to 3 frigates in operation. note also that the 2 larger cruisers can due to their large size operate easier in the ocean conditions the FAC's can go into.

I would not call the cruisers CG btw :P their missile arnament is not sufficient for that, CL is the best they can do haha

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Post subject: Re: Utopian Wars - pre-designsPosted: February 19th, 2016, 5:57 pm
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Haha got abit carried away, just really keen to see how this AU will develop.

Not to mention you have a lot more firepower then 3 frigates. At least 26 missiles


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