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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 2nd, 2010, 5:27 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
  • FB-111H
    • Further Extended body
      • Weapons Bay enlarged to carry 4 SRAM internally, with 6 externally
    • Long Wings, Possibly longer than the standard 'Long' wing.
    • Never got off the drawing board
      • Was a proposed replacement for the (then canceled B-1A program
        • Lost to the B-1B
At this point, the FB-111H became a completely new aircraft and was related to the F-111 series in name only.


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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 2nd, 2010, 7:12 pm
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klagldsf wrote:
TimothyC wrote:
  • FB-111H
    • Further Extended body
      • Weapons Bay enlarged to carry 4 SRAM internally, with 6 externally
    • Long Wings, Possibly longer than the standard 'Long' wing.
    • Never got off the drawing board
      • Was a proposed replacement for the (then canceled B-1A program
        • Lost to the B-1B
At this point, the FB-111H became a completely new aircraft and was related to the F-111 series in name only.
True, but I included it to be thorough.

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 2nd, 2010, 7:32 pm
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I think I got this time right :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 3rd, 2010, 3:10 am
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Only one problem with the F-111Bs/C/K

The wing on those is 3.5 feet longer. Normally this would equate to 7 pixels, but because the wings have a maximum sweep of 72.5 and a minimum sweep of 16 the fully swept (which I presume you are drawing here) length is going to be roughly 6 pixels longer than the short wing version.

This will also effect the FB-111A if it gets drawn.

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 3rd, 2010, 10:34 am
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So, I have add 6 pix for the wings?

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 3rd, 2010, 11:45 am
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Are you trying to show the wings fully swept or not swept, or some combination there of (I ask because that determines the extension that would need to be made - NOTE: I'm going to be away for a few days so it might be Monday before I get back to you).

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 5th, 2010, 2:18 am
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I think what Timothy is saying is that the longer wings of some of the F-111 versions will make the tips appear further to the rear in a side view. Especially if the wings are swept backwards. And I'm pretty sure the wings are drawn swept back otherwise the tips would be at about the centre of the fuselage.

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 5th, 2010, 4:37 am
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klagldsf wrote:
Only the FB-111A had the longer-length fuselage. The F-111E was the same length as the F-111A and was distinguishable pretty much only through the later style intakes and the use of three antenna under the nose instead of one larger-style ADF antenna.
The fuselage of the FB-111A (aka F-111G) is the same length as that of the other air force F-111s. This is a common misconception thanks to USAF SAC measuring in the pitot tube in the FB-111A and not measuring it in on TAC Varks (you got to be different!). The big difference between the FB-111A fuselage and the F-111D (which it was based on) is that there is additional fuel tankage in the bomber version. Now there are all sorts of structual differences between different models and batches of the F-111 because it was one of the last paper drawers, iron mongers built planes.

So apart from the wings and colour schemes and carried ordnance the difference for shipbucket is non exsistant. The FB-111A was perhaps the best looking F-111 thanks to SAC painting them in some nice colours. The common scheme was a three colour upper camie job in either green, medium grey and dark grey or light grey, medium grey and dark grey with a lower anti-nuclear flash white.

Looks like a bomber should:

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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 7th, 2010, 3:54 am
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Has anyone ever drawn the Su-47?


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Post subject: Re: Planebucket Discussion ThreadPosted: September 8th, 2010, 5:15 pm
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Has anyone ever drawn the Su-47?
I believe Golly already take care of her.

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