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ALVAMA
Post subject: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 3rd, 2016, 11:15 pm
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This vessel carries a modern 20mm (?) gun. Picture is taken between mid 1950s (likely).
Its a former KFK into service as a guard ship in the Federal Germany Navy.
Anyone around who is familiair with this gun, or can ID it, and tell me what type?
Would be great)


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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 4th, 2016, 12:23 am
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That looks a lot larger than a 20mm, also note that there appears to
be a breech at the back end of the gun, indicating that it would fire
a single, hand loaded shell, and then need to be reloaded (also by
hand). It bears a strong resemblance to the Oto - Melara 3 inch gun,
which is now being built in an automated turret, but the gun by itself
looks very similar.


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Cplnew83
Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 9th, 2016, 9:00 am
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I don't think that this ship would have sustained a 76mm firing in that position.
I'm fairly sure that's an early 20mm S-20 Marinelafette.

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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 9th, 2016, 9:38 am
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signal and Cplnew83, if you think the guns you have chosen are correct, please find a photo or drawing of the gun that can be checked against the gun in Alex's photo. Confirm or deny.


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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 9th, 2016, 10:12 am
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It's too early for the S-20, that didn't enter service until the 1970ies

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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 9th, 2016, 2:41 pm
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let me throw out 35-40 mm in air. for it is exactly what it looks like to me.

Looking at it, it looks like a German 5 CM submarine gun.


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Colombamike
Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 9th, 2016, 7:36 pm
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ALVAMA wrote:
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This vessel carries a modern 20mm (?) gun. Picture is taken between mid 1950s (likely).
Its a former KFK into service as a guard ship in the Federal Germany Navy.
Due to the bridge-wing style (postwar rounded wings) + radars, picture likely taken during 1960s-early 1970s (after probable late 1950's-early 1960s refit)
Cplnew83 wrote:
I'm fairly sure that's an early 20mm S-20 Marinelafette.
I concur, maybe a 20 mm/65 Rh202 prototype ?
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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 10th, 2016, 7:48 am
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I don't think its a 76mm, no way is that barrel long or fat enough to be a 3in. It looks more like a 40-30mm calibre range gun and mount to me.
The mount seems familiar though but can't exactly place it.

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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 10th, 2016, 9:11 am
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The early Rh-202 (20mm/65) is more possible, actually with a close look the cannon on the KFK seem very similar with that on photo posted by Colombamike.


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Post subject: Re: Question regards a naval gun.Posted: August 10th, 2016, 12:35 pm
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and Rheinmetall Rh 202

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