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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 4:17 pm
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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 4:36 pm
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Good drawing KHT! I think the rigging is spot-on, and you've done well to portray the ship overall.

My recommendations:
- Use dark grey lines for angles of less than 90°, e.g. on the turrets, some hull plating lines & superstructure
- Review the funnel shading
- More detailed ships boats
- Shading under overhanging platforms
- Use railing colour/dark grey for the detail on the funnels
- Is the foremast thick enough?
- Layer of very dark grey at the waterline
- Double black line atop the mainmast isn't strictly kosher
- I understand sources may be limited, but the hull looks a little sparse, some plating lines would be good if you can find a good reference
- Supporting props for the spotting top roof
- Railing colour for ladders

This might be a little nit-picky and I may be wrong on some of these points, but these things are what I would try to do if this were my drawing.

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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 4:51 pm
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Yes, a good effort, and congraulations on getting to this stage. I would say that Jabba has probbaly highlighted the areas that can add lustre to an already good drawing :)


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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 4:58 pm
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Very nice picture, though I miss that little guy from the conning tower. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 5:18 pm
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jabba wrote:
Good drawing KHT! I think the rigging is spot-on, and you've done well to portray the ship overall.

My recommendations:
- Use dark grey lines for angles of less than 90°, e.g. on the turrets, some hull plating lines & superstructure
- Review the funnel shading
- More detailed ships boats
- Shading under overhanging platforms
- Use railing colour/dark grey for the detail on the funnels
- Is the foremast thick enough?
- Layer of very dark grey at the waterline
- Double black line atop the mainmast isn't strictly kosher
- I understand sources may be limited, but the hull looks a little sparse, some plating lines would be good if you can find a good reference
- Supporting props for the spotting top roof
- Railing colour for ladders

This might be a little nit-picky and I may be wrong on some of these points, but these things are what I would try to do if this were my drawing.
Not at all! Nit-pick is good, it's much better if you all speak your mind if something could be made better. Makes for good drawing and much fun. :)
Only thing wrong would be about the "roof top", if you mean the one at the fore conning tower. It seems to be some kind of metall thingy with no obvious purpose whatsoever.
EDIT: I didn't read your post properly. I'll consider adding some kind of props for the spotting top's roof, but since no sources mention it, it's not decided yet.
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Yes, a good effort, and congraulations on getting to this stage. I would say that Jabba has probbaly highlighted the areas that can add lustre to an already good drawing :)
"This stage"?
eswube wrote:
Very nice picture, though I miss that little guy from the conning tower. ;)
He says hi ;) :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 6:49 pm
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Have tried to implement all of the advice. Plating lines are part improvisation, but I've tried to use any similar examples to get ideas. I've had some serious problems with detailing the boats, so if anyone has advice on how to improve them, please tell!
I've also done some minor changes after further consulting my sources.
Hope you'll like it! :D
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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 7:04 pm
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Nice drawing, but the spindly davits just looks wrong.

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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 7:16 pm
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Yeah, I know what Thiel means, they could maybe be 1 pixel wider. Looking good though!
Oh, the platform at the stern: does it have a door?

It's good to hear the floating man is well!

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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 7:21 pm
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A good effort by all means, but may I suggest you adhere with the SB standard of shading, including the funnels and front of bridge. It is customary to make all front facing parts lighter and aft facing parts darker, as if the light is coming from the bows. As it is your funnels and bridge front are showing just the opposite.
None the less this is a good drawing, apart from what has already been mentioned earlier.

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Post subject: Re: Satsuma 1910 by KHTPosted: April 11th, 2012, 7:52 pm
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Thiel wrote:
Nice drawing, but the spindly davits just looks wrong.
You're absolutely correct now that I think about it.
jabba wrote:
Oh, the platform at the stern: does it have a door?

It's good to hear the floating man is well!
Of cource it has! I've just drawn it invisible until now! ;)
Indeed. He's glad you all seem to like him so. :)
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A good effort by all means, but may I suggest you adhere with the SB standard of shading, including the funnels and front of bridge. It is customary to make all front facing parts lighter and aft facing parts darker, as if the light is coming from the bows. As it is your funnels and bridge front are showing just the opposite.
None the less this is a good drawing, apart from what has already been mentioned earlier.
Oh, haggus, was there such a standard? :o ;) :lol:


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