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manas001
Post subject: US battle cruiserPosted: February 9th, 2019, 11:14 am
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My vision of the US Navy's Battlecruiser Project. And its modern version. Designed during the Second World War, launched in 1948 and gradually upgraded. This is the most recent version.

Main Armament:
12x 12inch / 50 cal
8x 5-inch / 62 caliber
4x Recherche Guardian 25mm CIWS with Starstreak SAM
9x Mk 38 MOD 3
4x M2 .50
160x VLS

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Cargil48
Post subject: Re: US battle cruiserPosted: February 9th, 2019, 12:47 pm
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Which exactly is the type of war theatre this ship would have an advantage over an actual heavy frigate? The design is superb, btw.


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manas001
Post subject: Re: US battle cruiserPosted: February 9th, 2019, 2:12 pm
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Cargil48 wrote: *
Which exactly is the type of war theatre this ship would have an advantage over an actual heavy frigate? The design is superb, btw.
The main difference is in the caliber of the main guns. And the number of ammunition taken. Otherwise, it is true that a ship like modern frigate or destroyer have the same functions and possibilities. I wanted this battlecruiser to be able to operate independently of the major Task forces and even without an escort. It is equipped to fight submarines, surface ships and aircraft.


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Cargil48
Post subject: Re: US battle cruiserPosted: February 9th, 2019, 4:23 pm
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manas001 wrote: *
Otherwise, it is true that a ship like modern frigate or destroyer have the same functions and possibilities. I wanted this battlecruiser to be able to operate independently of the major Task forces and even without an escort. It is equipped to fight submarines, surface ships and aircraft.
The problem here is that you hit right on target upon a question I put myself for quite some time... Are the shells fired by such a battleship yes or no capable to be destroyed by modern CIWS before reaching their targets? Let's suppose such a vessel of a nation at war with another one takes part on an action against a major port with important petrochemical instalations. This port's defense systems have obviously all types of counter measures to sustain incoming missles of any kind but... if together with a bunch of, say, some ten missiles fired at the same time by the attacking force, a battleship like yours shoots a broadside from some 30 to 40 km away? I have my doubts if the attacked nation's defenses are able to fight effectively all the ordnance coming in at the same time... especially if we have in mind the small size and formidable speed of all cannon shells shot by thye battleship's artillery.


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manas001
Post subject: Re: US battle cruiserPosted: February 9th, 2019, 5:06 pm
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Cargil48 wrote: *
manas001 wrote: *
Otherwise, it is true that a ship like modern frigate or destroyer have the same functions and possibilities. I wanted this battlecruiser to be able to operate independently of the major Task forces and even without an escort. It is equipped to fight submarines, surface ships and aircraft.
The problem here is that you hit right on target upon a question I put myself for quite some time... Are the shells fired by such a battleship yes or no capable to be destroyed by modern CIWS before reaching their targets? Let's suppose such a vessel of a nation at war with another one takes part on an action against a major port with important petrochemical instalations. This port's defense systems have obviously all types of counter measures to sustain incoming missles of any kind but... if together with a bunch of, say, some ten missiles fired at the same time by the attacking force, a battleship like yours shoots a broadside from some 30 to 40 km away? I have my doubts if the attacked nation's defenses are able to fight effectively all the ordnance coming in at the same time... especially if we have in mind the small size and formidable speed of all cannon shells shot by thye battleship's artillery.
1. I think that 305mm caliber bullets with speeds around Mach 2 would not shot down by CIWS.
2.These guns have a range of about 30 km. And for example, the new Zumwalt Destroyer is supposed to be able to hit the target at a distance of about 150 km, and this was the reason why it originated because the navy wants to be able to attack offshore as well as inland targets.

I used these guns
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_12-50_mk8.php


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