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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 25th, 2015, 12:06 am
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Would love to see the Mode class with missiles


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Andre Muller
Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 25th, 2015, 10:05 am
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Would love to see the Mode class with missiles
It's planned, bud far later.

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 25th, 2015, 11:39 pm
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Frigg-class aircraft carriers[
SFFS HF2 Frigg - GV, 1935/37/39. Sold to Argentina in 1976. Scrapped in 1994.
SFFS HF3 Freya - LH, 1937/39/41. Scrapped in 1987.
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Designed with a hull from high-speed variant of Tor-class batteship, All machinery is unified with the Tor. Well-armored carrier proposed to fight in heavy battles with enemy air superiority, cover the Tor-clas battleships and attack enemies, damaged in the artillery fight. The hangar is double-decked: in the lower deck (5,5 m) are basing the fight-ready planes, and in the upper deck (3,3 m) are stored disassembled reserve planes and the repair workshop.

Displacement: 23245/27690 t
Dimensions: 251/256,4 x 28/32/36 x 6,02/6,37 m
Machinery: 6 Motala boilers, 4 Rateau-Bretagne (Frigg) / De Laval (Freya) TGUs, 128 920 hp
Maximum speed: 32 kt
Range: 6000 nm at 16 kt

Armament (1939):

-2x2 and 12x1 120/46 Bofors m.34 universal guns
-6x2 40/60, 4x2+10x1 20/70 autocannons
-Ericson m.39 radar
-Ericson m.41 Viggen artillery radar
-2 catapults, 3 airplane lifts

Armory (1939):

-Main belt - 100 mm (ends - 50 mm)
-Hangar - 35 mm
-Armored decks - 60+25 mm
-Bulge - 13 mm
-Torpedo bulkhead - 35 mm (from the 2nd bottom to the hangar deck)
-Universal turrels - 50-90 mm (barbettes - 50 mm)
-Flight deck - 30 mm
-Single guns - 20 mm
-Conning tower - 40 mm
-Autocannon turrels - 13 mm
-Rangefinder towers - 25 mm

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Plan of the flight deck and lower hangar deck

Air wing (1939):

Fixed - 66 planes:
-32 SAAB J.11 Gamen fighters (real SAAB J.19 project)
-16 ASJA B.6 (license-built Douglas 8A) diving bombers
-16 ASJA T.4 (license-built Douglas TBD) torpedo bombers
-2 Fokker C.XI hydroplanes

-Disassembled - up to 14 complete planes and some spare parts
-Temporary - up to 16 planes on the flight deck

SVERIGE-CLASS (PAGE 1) - UPDATED!

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 26th, 2015, 5:41 pm
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4. DESTROYERS.

1. Skaftö-class
Completed 12 units.

HKMS Skaftö - Union Iron Works, 1901/02/02, from 1920 - J13, sunk 04.1931
HKMS Spårö - UIW, 1901/02/02, from 1920 - J14, from 1933- V31, decomissioned 1942, in Göteborg naval museum
HKMS Sturkö - KMV, 1902/03/04 - sunk 07.1918
HKMS Styrsö - Karlskronavarvet (KV), 1902/03/04, from 1920 - J15, from 1933- V32, decomissioned 1942, scraped 1944
HKMS Skanör – KV, 1903/04/06, from 1920 - J16, from 1933- V33, sunk 09.1939
HKMS Skudd — Hortenvarvet (HV), 1903/04/05. from 1920 - J17, from 1933- V34, sunk 08.1939
HKMS Holmön – KMV, 1904/05/06 - sunk 07.1918
HKMS Hauk — HV, 1904/05/06 - sunk 06.1918
HKMS Hasslö KMV, 1905/06/07, from 1920 - J18, from 1933- V35, decomissioned 1942, scraped 1944
HKMS Havsfru- KV, 1905/06/07, from 1920 - J19, from 1933- V36, sunk 05.1940
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First destroyers of the United Navy. Designed by American company Union Iron Works, based on Bainbridge-class. In the moment of laying - the most powerful destroyers in Europe. Modernized in 1914-1917. After 1932 - guard ships without torpedo tubes. Decomissioned after 1942 due to deterioration).


Displacement: 380/540 t
Dimensions: 75 x 6,5 x 2,2 m
Machinery: 4 Babcock&Wilcox boilers, 2 quad expansion steam engines, 8300 hp
Maximum speed: 29 kt
Range: 1100 nm at 10 kt
Bunker: 170t of coal

Armament:
-6x1 75mm/50 Bofors m.98 guns (from 1923 - the fore and aft guns modified into anti-air, from 1932 - 2x1).
-2x1 457-mm torpedo tubes (from 1915 - 2x2, removed in 1930s)
-From 1914 - 2x1 6.5mm ksp.14 MGs (in 1932 added 2x2 25mm/65 and 4x1 20mm/70 ACs)
-From 1916 - 8 mines

Crew: 70 men

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 26th, 2015, 10:28 pm
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2. Vrangel-class destroyers
Completed 12 units.

J1 Vrangel — KV, 1911/12/14, landing ship from 1942, sunk as targetship 1951
J2 Klas Uggla — FBS, 1911/12/14, sunk 1940
J3 Wachtmeister — GV, 1912/13/14, landing ship from 1942, sunk 1943
J4 Puke – KMV, 1912/13/15, sunk 1939
J5 Klas Horn — FBS, 1914/15/17, landing ship from 1942, scraped 1951
J6 Erenskjold — HV, 1914/15/16, sunk 1939
J7 Psilander — KV, 1915/16/17, decomissioned 1949, in Göteborg Navy Museum
J8 Klas Fleming - KMV, 1915/16/18, sunk 1943
J9 Thyssens — FBS, 1916/17/18, sunk 1931
J10 Jakob Bagge – GV, 1916/17/18, sunk as targetship 1950
J11 Taube – KMV, 1917/18/19, landing ship from 1942, scraped 1951
J12 Strömstiern – HV, 1917/18/20, scraped 1951
(numbers added in 1920 due to reorganisation of the Navy).

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Based on hull of the Paulding-class destroyers, but enlarged up to 1050 tons to carry 105mm artillery. 8 ships are patricipated the WWI. Were built with lack torpedo armament (enforced in early 1920s with copying of the German G7 torpedo and triple 500mm tubes). In 1930s was planned to decomission these old ships until 1941. In 1942 most of the survived ships were converted to high-speed landing ships for Baltia and Jutland landing operations with demontage of torpedo tubes and 2 of 4 105mm guns.

Displacement: 1060/1420 t
Dimensions: 93 x 9,6 x 3,06 m
Machinery: 4 Babcock&Wilcox boilers (2 oil, 2 multifuel), 2 Curtiss (first 4) / De Laval (other) direct turbines, 27500 hp
Maximum speed: 34 kt
Range: 1500 nm at 14 kt
Bunker: 280t (40% of coal)

Armament:
-4x1 105mm/50 Bofors m.10 guns (licensed remake of 102/50 Mark 8)
-2x2 457mm torpedo tubes (from early-1920s - 2x3 500mm, copy of German)
-2х1 57mm/48 Bofors-Nordenfeld m.1891/1914 AA guns (from 1933 - 2x2 25mm/60 AC)
-4x1 6,5mm Ksp.14 MGs (from 1934 - 4x1 20mm/70 Oerlikon-Bofors m.29 AC)
-Up to 24 mines
-2 Y-shaped mortars (20 bombs) - from 1923

Crew: 134 men

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 27th, 2015, 7:36 pm
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Interesting. Keep it up. :)


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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 27th, 2015, 11:12 pm
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Muller has quite a few excellent (not to mention good-looking) designs. And they springsharp pretty well too...


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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 28th, 2015, 11:09 am
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3. Helsingfors-class destroyers
Completed 10 units.

SFFS J24 Helsingfors/Helsinki — FBS, 1924/25/27. Sunk 1943 near Baltic coast. Raised 1946 and scraped.
SFFS J25 Visby – KMV, 1924/25/26. Sunk 1939. Raised and included to Kriegsmarine as ZS-1. Sunk in Swinemunde in 1943 by Scandinavian air forces.
SFFS J26 Stockholm – KV, 1924/25/26. Decomissioned 1952, scraped.
SFFS J27 Malmo – FBS, 1925/27/28. Sunk 1940.
SFFS J28 Bergen – HV, 1925/26/28. Sunk 1939. Raised and included to Kriegsmarine as ZS-2. Sunk by crew in Stettin port in 1944. Raised again and recomissioned 1945. Struck a WWII bottom mine in Karlskrona port in 1948. Raised for third time in 1949 and sunk as a targetship. Had a reputation of unlucky ship and nickname “Neptun's regular client”.
SFFS J29 Karlskrona – KV, 1926/27/28. Sunk 1943. Raised 1946 and scraped to spare parts.
SFFS J30 Tammerfors/Tampere – FBS, 1926/27/28. Decomissioned 1954. In the Goteborg Navy museum.
SFFS J31 Trondheim – HV, 1926/28/29. Sunk 1931 after one lucky-shot, that damaged all boilers.
SFFS J32 Sundsvall – KV. 1927/28/29. Sunk 1940.
SFFS J33 Kalmar – KMV, 1928/29/30. Decomissioned 1953, scraped.
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Deep modernization of Vrangel-class with new guns and machinery. Built for open sea operations. In the beginning of the WWII these destroyers formed the basis of the Baltic fleet light forces, and suffered heavy losses due to poor survivability

Displacement: 1510/1820 t
Dimensions: 102 x 10,1 x 3,25 m
Machinery: 3 Motala boilers, 2 De Laval TGU, 35200 hp
Maximum speed: 37 kt
Range: 2500 nm at 14 kt
Bunker: 360t of oil

Armament:
-5x1 120mm/55 Bofors m.21 guns
-2x3 500mm torpedo tubes (used copy of German G7 torpedoes)
-2х1 57mm/48 Bofors-Nordenfeld m.1891/1914 AA guns (later - 2x2 40mm/60 Bofors m.34 AC)
-4-6x1 Oerlikon-Bofors m.29 AC or 13,2mm Browning MG
-Up to 24 mines
-2 Y-shaped mortars (24 bombs)

Crew: 173 men

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 28th, 2015, 11:58 am
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4. Jag.32-B class destroyers.
Completed 6 units.

SFFS J34 Mist— GV, 33/35/36 - sunk in 1940 in Skegerrak battle
SFFS J35 Snogg — HV, 33/34/35 — museum ship from 1974
SFFS J36 Rist — GV, 33/34/36 - sunk in 1940 in Skegerrak battle
SFFS J37 Stegg — HV, 33/34/35 - sunk by U-102 in 1941 in First Icelandic expedition
SFFS J38 Vinha — WA, 34/35/36 — museum ship from 1974
SFFS J39 Vahakari —— WA, 34/35/36 - sunk in 1940 in Skegerrak battle

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Big ocean destroyers, designed on experience of Russo-Scandinavian war. Had a lot of innovations: layered machinery, high-pressure boilers, light armour, universal guns with hydraulic autoloaders (fire rate - 15-16 shpm in 1939), Tp.36 large calibre electric torpedoes. Due to high complexity were too expensive and had a lot of childhood diseases, fixed only near to the war. One of the best pre-WWII destroyers in Europe. In the end of WWII armed by American radiofusing shells and self-guided Tp.44 Muling torpedoes. Two survived ships served until 1974 and were saved as museum ships and technical masterpieces.

Displacement: 2140/2690 t
Dimensions: 114 x 11б1 x 3,86/3,98 m
Machinery: 3 Wartsila high-pressure boilers, 2 Lundstrom TGU, 53500 hp
Maximum speed: 39 kt
Range: 4000 nm at 18 kt
Bunker: 410t of oil

Armament:
-3x2 120/46 Bofors m.34 universal guns with hydraulic autoloaders
-2x4 575mm torpedo tubes (8 reserve torpedoes)
-2х2 40mm/60 Bofors m.34 AC (after 1941 - 4x2)
-4x2 20mm/70 Oerlikon-Bofors m.29 AC
-Up to 36 mines
-8-barrel m.39 stony mortar (32 bombs)
-Ericson m.39 radar

Armory:
-Turrels - 10-17 mm
-Belt and upper deck over machines and shell stores- 14 mm
-Coning tower - 17 mm
-Rangefinders - 25 mm

Crew: 255 men

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Post subject: Re: ALT Navy of Scandinavian FederationPosted: November 28th, 2015, 12:39 pm
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5. Jag.35-class destroyers.
Completed 18 units (2 for export)

For the Netherlands Navy
Gerard Callenburg - KV, 1936/37/39, sunk in Java sea in 1942
Isaak Sweers- FBS, 1936/37/39, sunk in Java sea in 1942
License-built with Bofors artillery:
Philips van Almonde - SD, 1938/39/40, scrapped 1965
Tjerk Hiddes - RDM, 1938/39/40, scrapped 1965
6 ships based on this project were built in Netherlands in 1947-54.

First series - 1935:
Ordered for the Atlantic Fleet.

SFFS J40 Fjalar – KV, 35/36/38, Sunk near Kristiansunn in 1940.
SFFS J41 Galar – KMV, 35/36/37. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Argentina in 1975. Scrapped 1994.
SFFS J42 Skuld - KV, 35/36/38, sunk in Goteborg by German bombers in 1940. Raised and rejoined the navy in 1942. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Scrapped 1980.
SFFS J43 Trud - KMV, 35/37/38. Sunk in 1942 by German submarine.
SFFS J44 Gerd - FBS, 36/37/38. Sunk in Skagerrak battle in 1940.
SFFS J45 Gоll - FBS, 36/37/38. Modernised by MMJ program in 1961. Sold to Argentina in 1975. Scrapped 1993.
SFFS J46 Lokk – KMV, 37/38/39, sunk in Goteborg by German bombers in 1940. Raised and rejoined the navy in 1942. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Argentina in 1975. Scrapped 1994.
SFFS J47 Terne - HV, 38/39/41. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Venezuela in 1975. Scrapped 1992.
SFFS J48 Tjeld - Aker Oslo Mekaniska Verkstad (AO), 38/39/41. Sunk near Jutland in 1943.
SFFS J49 Hildur - GV, 37/38/39, Sunk in Skagerrak battle in 1940.

Second series - 1938 order:
All the ships were built by the Wartsilavarvet for the Baltic fleet with Lundstrom TGUs and Wartsila high-pressure boilers.

SFFS J50 Vaarlahti – WA, 37/38/40. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Chile in 1975. Scraped 1992.
SFFS J51 Valas – Wartsila (WA), 37/38/40. Sunk in 1943.
SFFS J52 Viihuri – WA, 38/39/40. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Argentina in 1975. Sunk in 1982.
SFFS J53 Vesihiisi – WA, 38/39/40. Modernised by MMJ program in 1962. Sold to Chile in 1975. Scraped 1995.
SFFS J54 Vetehinen – WA, 39/41/42. Modernised by MMJ program in 1964. Sold to Chile in 1975. Scraped 1992.
SFFS J55 Vesikko – WA, 39/41/43. Modernised by MMJ program in 1961. Sold to Venezuela in 1975. Scraped 1993.

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Designed as a primary destroyer of the Federal navy due to London threaty limits. Had more simple and reliable low-pressure machinery. After the WWII were in service until 1980. In 1960-64 10 survived ships were modernized to guided missile destroyers. Many ships were sold to other countries and still in service or reserve until mid-1990-s. The largest series of Scandinavian destroyers in history.

Displacement: 1710/1950 t
Dimensions: 108 x 11,1 x 3,76/3,88 m
Machinery: 2 boilers, 2 TGU, 42200 hp
Maximum speed: 38 kt
Range: 3000 nm at 18 kt
Bunker: 320t of oil

Armament:
-2x2 120/46 Bofors m.34 universal guns with hydraulic autoloaders
-2x4 575mm torpedo tubes (8 reserve torpedoes)
-2х2 40mm/60 Bofors m.34 AC (after 1941 - 4x2)
-4x2 20mm/70 Oerlikon-Bofors m.29 AC
-Up to 36 mines
-8-barrel m.39 stony mortar (32 bombs)
-Ericson m.39 radar

After MMJ program modernization:
-1x2 120/46 universal guns
-1x4 575 TT (up to 4 Ro.59 Svardfisken/Exocet guided missiles in torpedo tubes)
-4x4 57mm/65 Bofors m.54 AC
-1x8 410mm short TT for antisubmarine torpedoes
-1x2 RBS.62 self-defence S2ARS (16 missiles)
-2x10 190mm antisubmarine rocket launchers

Armory:
-Belt and upper deck over machines and shell stores- 14 mm
-Coning tower - 17 mm
-Rangefinders - 25 mm

Crew: 226 men

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