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Risen Britannia
Post subject: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 3rd, 2015, 10:00 pm
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Done approximately to a 1 pixel : 10 cm scale.

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Length: 200 m
Beam: 22 m
Draft 6 m

Max speed: 35 knots (65 km/s)
Range: 12,500 km

Main Armament: 5 x 2 203 mm (8 in) naval guns.
Secondary Armament: 6 x 2 102 mm (4 in) dual-purpose guns
Tertiary Armament: 5 x 2 40 mm Bofors, 24 x 2 20 mm Oerlikons.
Torpedoes: 4 x 3 533 mm (21 in) Torpedoes.

Please note that this is only my second real attempt at a WW2 vessel, and as such most of it is based off what little knowledge i could scrape together so please don't be too mean :P .


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Andre Muller
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 3rd, 2015, 10:48 pm
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A very beautiful ship, and good scale. British-like style. The only questionable thing is too modern bulbed nose. And it would be good, if you calculated it in the Sharp.

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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 4th, 2015, 1:24 am
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Very good looking ship.

Only niggle would be that it looks bow heavy - too much weight forward. You might be better with 4x3 or 2x2, 2x3 main armament layout to give a longer focsle deck to help achieve the 35 knot speed.


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Risen Britannia
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 5th, 2015, 11:50 am
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Andre Muller wrote:
A very beautiful ship, and good scale. British-like style. The only questionable thing is too modern bulbed nose. And it would be good, if you calculated it in the Sharp.
Thank you very much, although you will have to explain to me what "Sharp" is.
Krakatoa wrote:
Very good looking ship.

Only niggle would be that it looks bow heavy - too much weight forward. You might be better with 4x3 or 2x2, 2x3 main armament layout to give a longer focsle deck to help achieve the 35 knot speed.
Thanks also, would it be as simple as just removing the front gun or would i also have to shift the superstructure forwards so it's not then back heavy?


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Andre Muller
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 5th, 2015, 2:03 pm
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explain to me what "Sharp" is.
SpringSharp 3.0, a program for calculating WWI&2 military ship

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Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 5th, 2015, 3:39 pm
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Very nice as you must have done it all yourself with a custom scale :geek: :mrgreen:

(I would just cut front mount +bulbous bow and belt a bit to get it right)


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Risen Britannia
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 5th, 2015, 8:12 pm
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Andre Muller wrote:
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explain to me what "Sharp" is.
SpringSharp 3.0, a program for calculating WWI&2 military ship
I found 2.1 which is saying that i need a 164,000 hp engine for 35 knots, though if i narrow the ship down to 20m it drops it to 151,000 hp, which would put it inline with Japanese cruisers .

PS: 14,000 tones displacement at 20 m (not sure if metric or imperial)
JSB wrote:
Very nice as you must have done it all yourself with a custom scale :geek: :mrgreen:

(I would just cut front mount +bulbous bow and belt a bit to get it right)
Thanks. When you say "cut the belt" is that length, height or thickness?


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Risen Britannia
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 14th, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Updated taking into account peoples comments:
- New 3 gun turrets
- belt shortened
- HACS and 40mm bofors moved so they can actually work together.
- Bulbed nose removed
- Other minor changes/updates.
- Did a version with an admiral's bridge


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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 14th, 2015, 5:22 pm
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That looks really good Risen Britania.

The only 'but' I would have would be to increase the flare on the bow to help with seakeeping at the high speeds you want your ship to attain.

Have a look at the bow on the Vanguard as an example of the flare I am talking about.


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JSB
Post subject: Re: WW2 Heavy cruiserPosted: December 14th, 2015, 6:18 pm
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Looks really nice 8-)
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HACS and 40mm bofors moved so they can actually work together.
Unless its AU changed they don't work together the HACS worked with the 4" guns (Bofors has its own smaller directors) and 4 is quite an expensive fit especially early on.
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increase the flare
agreed but depends how good you want the design? plenty of nations built wet ships OTL...


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