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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 13th, 2011, 5:53 pm
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Holy smokes! Now I have to dig my jaw out of the basement.

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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 13th, 2011, 8:47 pm
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Actually, my dear odysseus, it should be a Byzantine dromon, but it's not. If you study the image more carefully, the Greek heraldic master (who ever he was/is?!) chose, instead, a depiction of a large Hellenistic polyrem i. e. multi-banked oared vessel, but substituted the square sails most commonly found on such vessels with a more 10th c. contemporaneous sail rig consisting of lateen sails. Hence the odd mixture. But I never said it was bad or anything, just that it was odd, but that's a comment on the choice of imagery.... Kim as usual did a most superb job!

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KimWerner
Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 13th, 2011, 11:26 pm
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odysseus1980 wrote:
In CoA of Nikiforos Fokas the ship is a Dromon.It is very good and acceptable.
Thanks, it was most important that you accept it. I look forward to see it at your drawing of Nikiforos Fokas ;)

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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 14th, 2011, 2:08 pm
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Ok,you seem to know more than me.Anyway, the badge is very superb.


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bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 16th, 2011, 1:20 pm
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Oh, Kim, once again I can hardly contain my flow of superlatives upon discovering the ever so magnificient shield of the HMS Black Prince! You leave us all trampelling the dust while you walk on the clouds with your infinitie skills of drawing!

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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 17th, 2011, 12:02 pm
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We are currently discussing in the Adm. section about renewing our templates to field proper space and size for the crests in the templates, as soon as we get something out, I'll post the offical dimension requirments here. We try our best to fit most of the existing smaller crest to the mould, but the bigger ones migth be in "danger"

You can also inturupt this as an open invitation of making your own suggestions of the crest's place and size in the template sheets.

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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 17th, 2011, 4:51 pm
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May I suggest that for merchant ships, the place of the crest in warships drawings, will be used by the house flag of the company?

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Portsmouth Bill
Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 17th, 2011, 5:24 pm
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I'm not in favour of cluttering up drawings with house flags, funnel bands, or whatever detracts from the drawings; and no offence to Alvama, but his otherwise excellent Great Lakes ships look too clutterred with all the added stuff as above. maybe we need a new Forum, were folk can post and discuss ships crests, flags, etc. so as not to loose the way here?


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Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 17th, 2011, 5:37 pm
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I have to agree with Bill. Although a coat-of-arms or ship's badge could be a nice touch, overloading drawings with stuff related to the ships' owners seems kind of wrong :|

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ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Coat of Arms for navy vesselsPosted: May 17th, 2011, 6:00 pm
whahaa wtf, that is just stupid, I see no difrence on a CoA or a house flag, the whole idea on this whole forum is getting quite sillly.

This example sould not be that bad :cry: :o

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