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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: February 27th, 2014, 8:19 am
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Concerning unofficial badges I will let it rest for the moment, until I know if there are many of them for RAN vessels. With your knowledge you might help me out ;)

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: February 27th, 2014, 8:54 am
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Well a secondary point is that the Victoria never served with the RAN, it was retired before 1901 so it seems odd to put it under the RAN banner and whilst the RAN seems a lot like the VCN's continuation, it was due the fact the VCN had the greatest number of men and vessels available. Though to my knowledge there may be only two pre 1900 COAs, unless the other Colonial Navies adopted the practice but I haven't seen much indication of such

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: February 27th, 2014, 11:56 pm
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I've uploaded the badge for HMAS Tasmania in a template now. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an unofficial badge for HMS Tasmania. If she had have a badge then, I'm certain she would have had an official one. It was in 1919 RN began with official badges ;)

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: February 28th, 2014, 12:51 am
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I'll take a quick look into it, you seem to be right, though it depends where in 1919 they started making it standard as Tasmania was commissioned in January and had been launched a tad earlier than 1919, but I'm yet to see proof of a British badge.

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: February 28th, 2014, 4:20 am
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On a different note, after a few weeks of searching, found an answer to Klagdsf's question (http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 562#p53562)

This was the City of Sydney's motto, originally intended for the ship to be along the lines of "I'm a gracious and fair victor/opponent" However that was removed for Sydney III & IV as of the connotations of the word 'Surrender' and the disasterous 1941 battle off WA which claimed the Sydney

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: March 1st, 2014, 2:09 pm
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Another one Kim, to my knowledge the oldest COA on SB and possibly the world(though I have seen evidence the Nelson carried her own crest at some point), the Devastation one I have coming next is at least 16 years younger and Cerberus one I also am about to start, is 15-20 years younger.

HMVS Victoria (Unique vessel) 1856-1880 Sloop

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The badge looks wonky as it is, being presumably handmade and not to a standard design

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HMAS Wewak L130

Balikpapan Class LCH 1973-1985 2000-2012

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: March 21st, 2014, 2:14 pm
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Finally

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This only seems to be the badge for the Shore Establishment Sailor Training School approximately 10min from my hometown

1911-1921 Flinders Naval Depot, despite not being the actual Flinders Naval Depot no close to Flinders

1921-Present HMAS Cerberus


However the Badge may apply to the further subordinate vessels/Bases

HMAS Cerberus II was the gunboat HMAS Protector, renamed on 1 April 1921 as Cerberus II until reverting to Protector in 1924
HMAS Cerberus III, the Naval Reserve Depot at Port Melbourne, was commissioned as HMAS Lonsdale on 1 August 1940
HMAS Cerberus III was the tug Kooronga
HMAS Cerberus IV was the tug TB 10
HMAS Cerberus V, the Naval Reserve Depot at Freemantle, was commissioned HMAS Leeuwin on 1 August 1940
HMAS Cerberus V was the tug TB 1536 Dooen transferred from the Australian Army in 1958
HMAS Cerberus VI was the naval depot in Hobart; later renamed HMAS Derwent, then HMAS Huon

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: March 21st, 2014, 3:32 pm
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That's a very fine badge. Maybe I should make a subforum for shore establishments badges? Many navies bases have beautiful badges. But I'm a little afraid the administration of both ships badges and other badges (the next would probably be air squadron badges etc.) will become a huge task :?

Edit: :oops: I've overseen your badges for HMVS Victoria and HMAS Wewak. I will upload them ASAP ;)

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: March 21st, 2014, 3:36 pm
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That might be wise as I count at least 15 Shore badges (Now Three of which have been drawn (Cerberus, Leeuwin and Platypus)) I have Creswell almost done so it'll bring the number up to four

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Post subject: Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian NavyPosted: March 22nd, 2014, 1:34 am
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As per promised

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HMAS CRESWELL, Shore Establishment, Royal Australian Naval College (Jervis Bay, ACT/NSW) 1958?-Present

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