Concerning unofficial badges I will let it rest for the moment, until I know if there are many of them for RAN vessels. With your knowledge you might help me out
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| Author: | KimWerner [ February 27th, 2014, 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
Concerning unofficial badges I will let it rest for the moment, until I know if there are many of them for RAN vessels. With your knowledge you might help me out
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| Author: | Rodondo [ February 27th, 2014, 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
Well a secondary point is that the Victoria never served with the RAN, it was retired before 1901 so it seems odd to put it under the RAN banner and whilst the RAN seems a lot like the VCN's continuation, it was due the fact the VCN had the greatest number of men and vessels available. Though to my knowledge there may be only two pre 1900 COAs, unless the other Colonial Navies adopted the practice but I haven't seen much indication of such |
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| Author: | KimWerner [ February 27th, 2014, 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
I've uploaded the badge for HMAS Tasmania in a template now. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an unofficial badge for HMS Tasmania. If she had have a badge then, I'm certain she would have had an official one. It was in 1919 RN began with official badges
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| Author: | Rodondo [ February 28th, 2014, 12:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
I'll take a quick look into it, you seem to be right, though it depends where in 1919 they started making it standard as Tasmania was commissioned in January and had been launched a tad earlier than 1919, but I'm yet to see proof of a British badge. |
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| Author: | Rodondo [ February 28th, 2014, 4:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
On a different note, after a few weeks of searching, found an answer to Klagdsf's question (http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 562#p53562) This was the City of Sydney's motto, originally intended for the ship to be along the lines of "I'm a gracious and fair victor/opponent" However that was removed for Sydney III & IV as of the connotations of the word 'Surrender' and the disasterous 1941 battle off WA which claimed the Sydney |
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| Author: | Rodondo [ March 1st, 2014, 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
Another one Kim, to my knowledge the oldest COA on SB and possibly the world(though I have seen evidence the Nelson carried her own crest at some point), the Devastation one I have coming next is at least 16 years younger and Cerberus one I also am about to start, is 15-20 years younger. HMVS Victoria (Unique vessel) 1856-1880 Sloop ![[ img ]](http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z414/Rodondo16/HMVSVictoria1855.png) The badge looks wonky as it is, being presumably handmade and not to a standard design ![[ img ]](http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z414/Rodondo16/HMASWewakCOA-2.png) HMAS Wewak L130 Balikpapan Class LCH 1973-1985 2000-2012 |
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| Author: | Rodondo [ March 21st, 2014, 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
Finally ![[ img ]](http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Rodondo/Rodondo/hmvs_cerberus.png) This only seems to be the badge for the Shore Establishment Sailor Training School approximately 10min from my hometown 1911-1921 Flinders Naval Depot, despite not being the actual Flinders Naval Depot no close to Flinders 1921-Present HMAS Cerberus However the Badge may apply to the further subordinate vessels/Bases HMAS Cerberus II was the gunboat HMAS Protector, renamed on 1 April 1921 as Cerberus II until reverting to Protector in 1924 HMAS Cerberus III, the Naval Reserve Depot at Port Melbourne, was commissioned as HMAS Lonsdale on 1 August 1940 HMAS Cerberus III was the tug Kooronga HMAS Cerberus IV was the tug TB 10 HMAS Cerberus V, the Naval Reserve Depot at Freemantle, was commissioned HMAS Leeuwin on 1 August 1940 HMAS Cerberus V was the tug TB 1536 Dooen transferred from the Australian Army in 1958 HMAS Cerberus VI was the naval depot in Hobart; later renamed HMAS Derwent, then HMAS Huon |
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| Author: | KimWerner [ March 21st, 2014, 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
That's a very fine badge. Maybe I should make a subforum for shore establishments badges? Many navies bases have beautiful badges. But I'm a little afraid the administration of both ships badges and other badges (the next would probably be air squadron badges etc.) will become a huge task  Edit:  I've overseen your badges for HMVS Victoria and HMAS Wewak. I will upload them ASAP
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| Author: | Rodondo [ March 21st, 2014, 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
That might be wise as I count at least 15 Shore badges (Now Three of which have been drawn (Cerberus, Leeuwin and Platypus)) I have Creswell almost done so it'll bring the number up to four |
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| Author: | Rodondo [ March 22nd, 2014, 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoA parts sheet for the Royal Australian Navy |
As per promised ![[ img ]](http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Rodondo/Rodondo/hmas_creswell_badge.png){kind=icon} HMAS CRESWELL, Shore Establishment, Royal Australian Naval College (Jervis Bay, ACT/NSW) 1958?-Present |
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