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Author:  MihoshiK [ November 19th, 2018, 2:07 pm ]
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Hood wrote: *November 19th, 2018, 12:42 pm
A nice addition, one that has certainly been discussed a lot over at Secretprojects forum.

During the last discussion there was some discussion if the chin intake would need enlarging to serve the Spey, although the later marks of A-7 seemed to manage ok.
I took my cue directly from that discussion in fact. Including enlarging the intake by one pixel, and mounting only one 30 mm Aden.
Gollevainen wrote: *November 19th, 2018, 1:46 pm
Nice indeed. we should have "put spey on it" challenge sometimes :D
Hm, after the Typhon challenge?

(which is still lacking judges...)
Author:  MihoshiK [ November 19th, 2018, 10:53 pm ]
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Some more weapons loadouts.

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Author:  Hood [ June 19th, 2022, 8:20 am ]
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[My bad for forgetting this thread - it's a bit of a necropost but hopefully more stuff will appear for this thread!]

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The English Electric P.10 offered to Specification R.156T issued in October 1954 to meet Operational Requirement OR.330 for a Mach 2.5+ reconnaissance aircraft with a range of 5,000nm.
The P.10 was designed to cruise at 70,000ft at Mach 3, it was powered by a ducted ramjet wing boosted by two Rolls-Royce RB.123 turbojets used for take-off and subsonic cruise on the return flight. At the cruise at 70,000ft the ramjets would only produce 1/4 of their maximum thrust to allow plenty in hand for evasive manoeuvres. Ceiling was 85,000ft, range 5,000nm. Jettisonable wingtip tanks could also be fitted (the inset views).
The reconnaissance equipment was the Ku-band Red Drover SLAR with 30ft-long aerials and a camera ahead of the cockpit. Doppler navigation radar was also fitted. The 2-man cockpit was novel in that the pilot's ejection seat slid up and down on rails - EE felt that a pilot would have little to do during the high-Mach cruise on autopilot so he would lower his seat and act as a second observer, the instrument panel tilting.
The design lost out to the Avro 730, though the Air Ministry were impressed with the propulsion concept. OR.330 was cancelled in 1957 and with it the Avro 730.
Author:  Rainmaker [ November 17th, 2023, 5:02 am ]
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The Short SC.5/41 was an early-1960s proposal by Short Brothers and the Lockheed Corporation, offered to meet Operational Requirement ASR.364 for a strategic transport. The basic concept was a stretched Short Belfast fuselage mated to a new pair of wings and tail surfaces, which were to be derived from those on the Lockheed C-141 Starlifter. The so-called "Jet Belfast" would likely have been powered by four Rolls Royce Conway turbofans, allowing the aircraft to carry two decks of palletized cargo across the Atlantic at a speed of 500 mph. Another interesting feature of the proposed aircraft was a swing-nose, facilitating the loading and unloading of materiel from both the nose and tail of the aircraft. A broadly similar but improved proposal, designated as SC.5/45, was also developed during this time period. Detailed presentations on the SC.5/41 and SC.5/45 proposals were made to British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC) and RAF respectively, but ultimately no orders were placed.

Specs: Length: 146' 10" (44.8m), Wingspan: 163' 6" (49.8m), Height: 41' 8" (12.7m), Fuselage diameter: 18' (5.5m). Propulsion: 4x Rolls-Royce Conway 550 (21,800 lb. thrust ea.). Cruising speed: 500 mph (805 km/h, 435 kn). MTOW: ~330,700 lb. (~150,000 kg).

Inspiration for this colour scheme is provided by Hobbes over at whatifmodellers.com, you can find his excellent SC.5/41 model conversion here. Also many thanks go out to Garlicdesign for the original Shorts Belfast drawing, and to Llamaman, whose C-141 drawing donated a pair of wings for the occasion.
Author:  rifleman2 [ November 17th, 2023, 3:48 pm ]
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interesting the jet be;fast
Author:  Hood [ November 18th, 2023, 3:34 pm ]
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Great work!
It does look good, I've always had a soft spot for the chunky Belfast.
Author:  eswube [ November 27th, 2023, 7:59 pm ]
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Very nice!
Author:  The_Sprinklez [ December 28th, 2023, 9:23 pm ]
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UK, Tornado ADV Alternatives c. Late 1970s
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Author:  Hood [ December 30th, 2023, 9:23 am ]
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Those are cool colour schemes.
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