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rejon
Post subject: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 11th, 2011, 5:15 pm
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Having just discovered this site can I say that I am hugely impressed by the quality and number of drawings on the site. They are way beyond my technical ability and the line drawings are superior to anything I have seen in many warship books. Well done everybody. I am a ship modeller and am presently considering building a Royal Navy carrier at 1/144 scale, due to the wide range of aircraft kits at this scale. There is a commercial hull available of HMS Victorious, as first built. If I go with HMS Victorious then it will be as rebuilt. Looking at the drawings of Victorious for 1941 and 1958 I am struck by the large difference in size. The 1941 drawing is perfect but appears too small when looking at the scale, published data on ship dimensions, and the drawings of other carriers. The 1958 drawing is the correct size. I was wondering therefore if the 1941 drawing has been "shrunk" when loaded onto the site, or is this a computer glitch! Any comments please.


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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 11th, 2011, 6:18 pm
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When refitted 1950-58 the hull was cut in half and she was lenghthened by 30ft. ;)The drawing reflects this.You may struggle to get all the aircraft in 1/144 scale.


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rejon
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 14th, 2011, 8:03 pm
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Thanks for your reply. I didnt know that Victorious was cut in half as part of her reconstruction. There are a lot of navy aircraft available in 1/144 scale eg Wyvern, Scimitar, Buccaneer, Gannet, Phantom, Harrier, Wessex, Sea King.
Going back to the drawing of Victorious in 1941, reading off the scale gives an overall length of about 205 metres. The actual ship as built had an overall length of 227.9 metres. ie a difference of about 23 metres. Hence my comment about the drawing being "shrunk".


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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 14th, 2011, 8:47 pm
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Good luck with the model,this one I would like to see,post some pics of work in progress 8-)Could you post a link to the aircraft model sites ? I scaled out the drawings and it appears you have a point.Victorious 1958,1562 pixels=781ft. was a kitbash of Mosquito's upper works,I lengthened DP's lower hull to fit.Mitchell drew the guns for me,DP's superb aircraft.All I really did was colour her in,and then do the port side from scans.


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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 14th, 2011, 9:30 pm
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Bh, i found an error in your frawing.
Look at the Port side and starboard side guns wich i have drawn.
One set is swapped to the wrong side ;)
(i quess the most left gun from the Portside)

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Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 14th, 2011, 10:07 pm
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Well spotted Mitch.I'll fix that when I do the plan view.Are you any good at drawing plan view aircraft :P ?


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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 15th, 2011, 6:56 am
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I am good at top views. Probaly done more then the rest.
But i never did aircraft b4. Not even one i quess(also side view, exept for au).
I can try, shoulnd he hard if i do ships also.
And speaking of this. 3 weeks ago i was bizzy making a tutorial for front and top view. Now i remember it again :-P

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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 15th, 2011, 3:58 pm
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Cheers Mitch.I'll PM over some scans over the weekend for reference :P


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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 15th, 2011, 4:22 pm
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Bombhead wrote:
Cheers Mitch.I'll PM over some scans over the weekend for reference :P
Np, i have to do planes sometime aswell. Maby this is a good start.
(Im now also creating german never where planes aswell, so i quess its a really good time to do it !)

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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: HMS Victorious 1941 drawing.Posted: April 15th, 2011, 4:34 pm
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I've got some good digital art work of the German stuff if you want that too ?


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