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Cascadia
Post subject: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 11th, 2012, 5:15 pm
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The following vessels have been or will be laid down on my yard.

ASR-21 Pigeon (commissioned
ARS-50 Safeguard (commissioned)
ATS-1 Edenton (commissioned)
AFS-1 Mars
T-AKR-296 Gordon

Acouple of small US harbor vessels found in the net on a small sheet named Army2


Line drawings to any of these would be appreciated. :)

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 9:29 am
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Know my generosity. ;)

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee4 ... s_afs1.jpg

Scan of AFS-1 Mars from Weyers 1990-1991, p. 611.
Unfortunately, I don't have a side drawing of T-AKR-296 Gordon (nor T-AKR-298 Gilliland)


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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 10:20 am
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Cascadia

Here is an image for a Mars class ship, although the site concerned is not known for total accuracy, the hull shape may be indicative

http://www.usmilitaryart.com/AFS4_68_2.5in.jpg

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 12:13 pm
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Thank you guys. for now I only had pictures of the Mars.

@eswube

What would I do without you. :) Interestingly the book of yours seems to use the same line drawings as mine, although your scans are much better and larger than mine.

And about the Gordon, she was a last minute addition, so I haven't looked for references myself.

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 12:15 pm
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US Military Art drawings are of dubious accuracy at best, and I tend to only see them as useful if they can be corroborated with other photographic sources.

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 12:25 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
US Military Art drawings are of dubious accuracy at best, and I tend to only see them as useful if they can be corroborated with other photographic sources.
I will keep that in my mind.

BTW, I found some pictures of ship models on the net including Mars and Edenton

http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products ... s_mars.htm

How accurate are these, especialy the underwater hull?

Oh, and I found a more or less usefull line drawing of the USNS Gordon.

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 1:08 pm
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I do tend to trust modelers to get hull details right because the same exacting mindset that shows up in 'Bucketeers shows up in modelers.

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 1:13 pm
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the only thing you have to keep in mind with models is that when they are floating models, which can actually float, stabilisers, bilge keels and control surfaces seem to be oversized, because this is 1. easier to build and repair and 2. the water itself does not scale as well as the models :P

for static models I follow timothy though :P

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 1:33 pm
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They seem to be static models. So I will follow Timothy too.
Thanks for your approval.

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Post subject: Re: Cascadia's worklistPosted: July 13th, 2012, 8:49 pm
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Cascadia wrote:
@eswube

What would I do without you. :) Interestingly the book of yours seems to use the same line drawings as mine, although your scans are much better and larger than mine.

And about the Gordon, she was a last minute addition, so I haven't looked for references myself.
No problem. :)
I made the scans from a paper copy, so I could set the quality/size/resolution as high as possible (and practical).
Unfortunately in 1990/1991 Gordon was not yet in US Navy service. I also have a 2002/2004 edition of Weyers Flotten Taschenbuch, but it's just a rather poor quality .pdf, and anyway there are some omissions when it comes to pictures US auxiliaries, including USNS Gordon (and it's sister ship).


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