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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 6th, 2013, 3:38 pm
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Neat. How were they handling pitch control?

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 6th, 2013, 4:51 pm
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Insane :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 6th, 2013, 5:23 pm
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Neat. How were they handling pitch control?

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 6th, 2013, 5:43 pm
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Truly impressive!


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 10th, 2013, 11:08 am
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For today, two submissions made to Spec F.18/37, issued in March 1938 which resulted in orders for the Hawker Tornado and Typhoon.
F.18/37 called for a fighter to achieve 400mph at 15,000ft, service ceiling not below 35,000ft and armed with twelve 0.303in machine-guns.

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Gloster F.18/37, shown here in the colours of 263 Squadron circa early 1941

Powered by a single Napier Sabre with wingroot radiators. Twelve machine-guns were housed in the nose. Ceiling was estimated at 38,000ft and should reach 15,000ft in 4.1 minutes. Apparently it reached mock-up stage but was replaced by a similar design with radiators on the ends of the booms and armed with five 20mm cannon. Gloster also offered a twin-engine design based on the F.9/37 fighter using elements of the F.18 fuselage with Bristol Taurus radials and twelve machine-guns in the nose. Shown here is the first design.

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Bristol F.18/37, shown here in the three proposed versions and coloured in 6 Squadron markings circa 1943, 112 Sqn in the Middle East circa 1941 and 66 Sqn in late 1940

The Bristol design was offered in three versions with the Bristol Centaurus, Napier Sabre and the Rolls-Royce Vulture. No performance data survives but each wing had six machine-guns and a 100 gallon fuel tank. This design has an unusual radiator duct running along each fuselage and the absence of exhaust stubs on the plans seems to suggest they vented via the duct too. The design has some similarities with the odd turret-fighter proposed to meet Spec F.11/37 which Darthpanda has previously drawn.

Another of the F.18/37 submissions was the Supermarine 327, which I've drawn previously.
Supermarine 327

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 10th, 2013, 2:20 pm
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Fascinating additions! :)


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 10th, 2013, 2:22 pm
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Great work!

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 10th, 2013, 7:51 pm
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Amazing stuff

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 11th, 2013, 4:25 pm
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The Miles M.26 'X' Wing Airliner in the colours of BOAC in the early post-war period.

George Miles began work on a series of blended-wing airliners in 1936 and the M.26 was to be a full-size airliner. Span 150ft, length 110ft, wing area 2,350sq ft, cabin width 16ft and cabin height 8ft, powered by eight Rolls-Royce V-12 engines (type unspecified)for an estimated cruising speed of 350mph and range of 3,450 miles with 50 passengers or 2,100 miles with 100 passengers. The blended-wing design had a flattened-oval fuselage with top and bottom windows and a lounge was included in the cabin with settees and chairs and tables! The war halted all real development of large-scale and scaled test aircraft, but here I've imagined a post-war use with BOAC, instead of the Bristol Brabazon, although another Miles design was proposed to the Brabazon Committee to fulfil the Type 1 requirement for a transatlantic airliner.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: November 11th, 2013, 6:05 pm
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Wow! Great work, Hood.


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