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eltf177
Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 20th, 2018, 11:15 pm
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Know what? Put up or shut up, you mong.

You think it isn't correct? Draw a better part. Come on, fire up MSPaint, Photoshop, whatever, and draw a better part.

Or is your mouth bigger than your artistic chops?
And this is precisely why I never post here anymore... :oops:


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 21st, 2018, 3:43 am
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Again, please conduct yourselves in a professional manner.

Reacting aggressively to Colombamike (a guy we know to be abrasive) is not productive and just casts the community in a bad light. Reply in a constructive manner and you will help us to defuse the situation. Just because one guy comments with rude personal attacks does not mean we need that from the rest of the guys.

Seeing comments from members mentioning how they do not post on our board because of aggressive commentary is especially disheartening. Remember why we are here: the drawings. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 21st, 2018, 4:07 am
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Great job with the 16A, Char!

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 21st, 2018, 7:40 am
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eltf177 wrote: *
MihoshiK wrote: *
Know what? Put up or shut up, you mong.

You think it isn't correct? Draw a better part. Come on, fire up MSPaint, Photoshop, whatever, and draw a better part.

Or is your mouth bigger than your artistic chops?
And this is precisely why I never post here anymore... :oops:
With all due respect, but Colombamike is an extremely abrasive poster who, as evidenced in this thread, has a hard time admitting that he's wrong while posting extremely snide remarks. This might have been off set if he was a good artist, but all he does is being a smartass. Granted, he can make insightful comments and remarks, but even then he's usually extremely annoying in his posting style.

This has been going on for years.

My personal opinion is that he's not worth having around due to the aggravation.

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 21st, 2018, 7:50 pm
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This does not contribute to the desire of some artists to improve their skills. Personally, it never occurred to me to swear for "pixels" and details. I'm just trying to make the most of the rules. Sorry, friends !!! But these tears and delirium due to contours and shadows, details and trifles (especially people who are not a full-fledged part of the community and do not know how to do anything other than write nonsense) ... "kill" the desire to draw, This a place for friends and colleagues, not confrontation!

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 23rd, 2018, 7:14 pm
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Wonderful drawing, Charguizard!

I've never seen that one before. A rather handsome looking design, especially when compared to other British designs of that era... (IMHO)


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 24th, 2018, 12:47 am
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I appreciate your kind comments everyone, and again thank Hood for letting me showcase this here.


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 24th, 2018, 4:15 pm
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Just a word on the 4in, 4.5in, 4.7in twins, all supporting what Blackbuck wrote. If anyone has a drawing of the twin 4.7in turret, I would be very pleased to see it, but also very surprised.
The 4.5in twin on capital ships was a 'countersunk' between decks mount. It appeared as a turret on the Battle class destroyers. There are plenty of pictures of both of these. The 4.5in gun was developed from the 4.7in (firing a 55lb projectile instead of 50lb) in the early 1930s and the prototype twin BD mount was tested on Iron Duke in 1936.
The twin 4in turret was made and mounted experimentally, and there are/were photos in the Vickers photo archive. The working spaces were above deck level.
The twin 4.7in so far as I know was never built. Certainly apart from on the ship drawings which Blackbuck posted, I have never seen* any drawings of the turret.
Those ship drawings indicate a domed top turret like the twin 4in. That is not definitive, because (as gun and turret designs were in Vickers, not Admiralty, hands the turrets shown on early drawings of proposed ships (those submitted for Admiralty approval to build) were not always identical to the final versions. Early drawings of Dido class cruisers illustrate this point well.

*For various reasons - chiefly articles on RN cruisers for Warship over the last 10 years or so - I have searched pretty diligently in Ships' Covers at NMM, ADM and other reports at The National Archives, the Vickers plans collections at Barrow and at Cambridge University.

A very nice drawing of 16A, Charguizard.


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Interwar Captial ShipsPosted: April 24th, 2018, 9:26 pm
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Charguizard well done for the excellent drawing its wonderful that this thread is still ongoing and has a second contributor to match Hoods great reference works.


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