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Hood
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 4th, 2020, 3:29 pm
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A very fine drawing of an incredibly flawed design.

I have offered my two pennies worth of thought over at Secretprojects, but this does look like an amateur design someone sent in to the Ministry and they soon filed it away.

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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 4th, 2020, 3:32 pm
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So you think it was done without requisition from HQ as private idea?

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 4th, 2020, 3:36 pm
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Very curious design, a cruiser with a sailboat like hull. Perhaps her designer was drinking too much beer.


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maomatic
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 4th, 2020, 3:46 pm
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Hi,

thanks for the comments!
reytuerto wrote:
Weinbrand while designing a warship is not a good idea! :mrgreen:
And probably loads of Panzerschokolade... :lol:

Colombamike wrote:
You drawing have only 1 (very) small mistake ;)
I know, I know... I had hoped I could slip this one past you... But that was of course impossible! ;)

That mistake was done intentional. There was simply no space to fit the AA-gun and the crane, while still leaving enough space to not hinder turret and catapult rotation.
I was trying to make the unworkable a bit more workable, you know... :)

I could try to fit smaller cranes, but I doubt I can find ones. After all, they had to be sturdy/large enough to lift 12tons+.

Colombamike wrote:
On this 1940 study, I only detected 2 interesting things (for hypothetical future/never-were German capitals-ships/large-cruisers designs of 1941-1945 timeframe) :
- 203mm triple turrets ;)
- newly designed main tower bridge & aft tower bridge ;)
Agreed, though I don't think the plan is "official" enough to show a new general way in German design-philosophy.

Rhade wrote:
From 1940... they had some wild ideas early or even before the war. Are there are dates on planes when they had been drafted?
The designs are dated May-June 1940. The planes look like pretty generic twin-engined bombers. Went with Ju88s on my drawing.


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erik_t
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 4th, 2020, 4:42 pm
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I have little to say that hasn't been said. Absolutely pants-on-head crazy, to the extent we almost need another category besides "never built", but the drawing is delightful.


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Kangaeru Kitsune
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 7th, 2020, 12:47 pm
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What are those “extra propeller blades” below the bow and the stern of this ship?


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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 7th, 2020, 2:28 pm
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Cycloidal propellers.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 7th, 2020, 8:22 pm
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It's absolutely insane, but the drawing is excellent. :)


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DG_Alpha
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 8th, 2020, 7:32 pm
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Nice drawing, interesting interpretation of the original plans.

I was working on a drawing of the designs myself for the past few weeks, so it looks like I wasn't fast enough. If you allow it, I may post my drawings here.

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maomatic
Post subject: Re: Germany - Atlantikbomber-KreuzerPosted: November 9th, 2020, 5:18 pm
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Hey DG,

sure thing! Would love to see what you make of this thing!

Btw: Thanks to the kind help of ace, I made some changes to the hull shading.
Still not 100% sure about the aft and bow sections, so I left them kind of like before...


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