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You'd still need to enlarge the hull. The F2 was a monster (in size I mean) compared to the Firefly, and as I mentioned earlier the Colossus class carriers were good for only around 24 planes (of Firefly size). Using the F-2 on this small hull will give around 16 to 18 planes maybe 24 with permament deck park whic will intefere with flying operations.
Also why not going for the more modern angled deck - the French navy toyed with the idea in 1940, in their Joffre class carriers where the deck was to be offset to port (in fact not a true angled deck).

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The F-2 measures 32' by 26' while the Firefly measures a good ten feet in both wingspan and length. I don't see how that is a greater problem. Anyway, since this is just a light carrier, I'm just gonna end up switching the F-2s out with the Hunter. I have plans for a larger carrier in the works, so I think the aircraft background for the planes besides the Firefly would have to go something like "The aircraft's project was revived however, when the Centennial Navy announced a requirement for larger, more well-rounded and efficient planes to replace the specialized, single task ones at hand..." After all, the TB2D was designed specifically for the Midway class carriers, so I would imagine the Centennials going through a similar process...

As for the carrier, my original design originally included an angled deck, but that was scrapped when the design date was to be 1938. I'll start drawing up plans for her sister ships, although I'm keeping the Troy an axial deck carrier.

CNS Troy CVM-1
CNS Constantinople CVM-2
CNS Babylon CVM-3

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Take two:

-Enlarged elevators
-lowered turrets
-Raised single funnel
-Reduced Airwing
-More aligned between views
-More details added
-But still a WIP



Revisions will start taking a longer time for me now that school is becoming more and more time consuming, so I won't be able to get much more than that done during a week or so of time.

Also...

The Troy class carriers were designed out of the Centennial Navy's mindset of light, armored all-purpose carriers. Designed in conjunction with British firms, the specifications called for a ship that could carry the planned USA/USP/Centennial Joint Arial Naval Defense (JAND) plan, which was developed during the late 30s. The plan called for a few light (20mm) and intermediate (40mm) cannon, along with a greater number of medium (3") and heavy (Centennia chose the British 4") DP cannons. The ships were to have had the automatic 3" guns being developed by the USA and USP, but the Centennials wanted their ships quickly, just replacing the planned mounts with license-built British twin 40mm cannons. Construction of the Troy's sisters, the Babylon and Constantinople, had been halted pending design to an experimental angled-deck design. After a month of work, they were continued to the original design. However, as the Germans had began developing long range maritime bombers, the Centennial ships were hurried through the building, being completed in 1944; a span of three building years. After running trials off the coast of Brazil, the Troy deployed in company of the Constantinople, two battlecruisers, three American cruisers, and 2 flotillas of destroyers to operate off the coast of occupied Gibraltar. Heavy air raids had shown that the carriers were best used as attack carriers, being armored to the point that they could take hits from 500 kg bombs with minimal damage. But, with a maximum of 36 aircraft, the Centennial Navy long questioned the carriers' usefulness in the Pacific and out in Atlantic carrier battles. They requested that two larger carriers, with integrated angle decks, be built by 1945-46 to combat rumors of Germany having begun converting the hull of the barely started Hindenburg (H-41) to an armored carrier.

The Babylon was deployed to the Pacific, where she was soon heavily damaged by the intense carrier battles that raged against Japan. She was put with the Centennial/USP fleet that was holding the line a thousand miles outside the United States of the Pacific. She remained in the Pacific until transfer into the Indian Ocean, where she and two of her escorting cruisers were sunk by a wolfpack of German submarines.

The Constantinople operated in the Atlantic with the Troy until 1946, when she was transferred to the "Mediterranean Breach Fleet", part of Task Force 1000, a Ghost fleet tasked with breaching into the lightly guarded, although occupied, Mediterranean, trying to divert Axis naval assets away from Spain and North Africa. She was heavily damaged during her fourth raid, and was forced to be scuttled after taking 4 torpedo hits and 8 bombs.

The Troy initially operated in the Atlantic with the Constantinople, although in 1946, she was paired with the French carrier Bordeaux, which had just come out of the US port at Halifax (USA acquired Canada as states, Mexico is a US territory in this AU), where she was refurbished into a carrier after her days as the world's largest passenger liner were over. The Troy was transferred to the Pacific with the Bordeaux, where both saw combat against the Japanese until the end of the war.

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yep now is good now

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Well, until I get more feedback on the Troy, here are some designs from a few months back.

The New Rotterdam class vessels were designed to fill the gap between the lack of cruisers and battlecruisers in the Centennial Navy. 11 ships were built from 1915-1920, all in Centennial yards. The designs came out of a 1912 requirement for a battlecruiser to lead the other cruisers of the Centennial Navy into battle against enemy cruisers. The designed enemy of the projected ship was to be against both British and German vessels, even though Centennia, a strictly neutral nation, had strong diplomatic ties to both nations. A British design had called for a vessel similar to the Invincible class battlecruisers, although said vessels would suffer from having two wing turrets rather than having them all on the centerline. The German design also called for a vessel similar to the German Blucher class armored cruiser. Yet, American designs called for a design along the lines of the South Carolina class battleships, armed only with eight 12" guns, yet able to fire all of them to either direction of the ship. With great interest in the design, the Centennials looked toward the US for more design help, although both Britain and Germany came up with their own versions of the American ship featuring superfiring turrets. The 1913 revised British design called for a vessel with a "Q" turret in the middle, similar to the Tiger class battlecruisers that were being built. The German design was more appealing than its British counterpart, based heavily on the Derfflinger class battlecruisers that showed great promise. Yet, the Americans were able to mount the still unproven triple gun turrets on their revised design. The short, beamy design however had been unappealing to the Centennial board. Foreign designs taken into account, late 1913 saw the final design of the New Rotterdam class battlecruisers. These vessels, at 636 feet, combined a slim hull with the beam of 90 feet, were able to reach a top speed of 29 knots under full power. In an attempt to streamline building, armaments were to all fit in the same size barbette, producing two different vessels out of the same hull design. She was also reworked to British standards, being fueled by oil. The Centennials had worked alongside the US for an 8" gun starting in 1913, when the original design had been made. France helped design and build quad mountings for the guns that would fit in the triple 12" gun barbette. The resulting classes, the New Rotterdam (5 vessels) and Winchester class (6 vessels) were the pinnacle of battlecruiser development, even with only enough armor to counter 6" shells. The Centennial Navy's first capital ships, they proved to be well built, with all but one serving on into WWII...



Critiques anyone?

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i liked the second one

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The draft is too deep and those guns seem small.

Draught could come down by about 5-7 pixels. Regarding the commend on guns there is nothing wrong with them If they're bridging between battlecruisers and heavy cruisers 12x8" is a substantial broadside to anything short of a battleship. I'd probably relocate the secondary armament lower than it currently is as well.

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1912 is awfully early for quads.

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Agreed, 1912 is way too early for any quad mount, the earliest you could pull it off is in the late 20's. Also those turrets, IMHO, seem way too modern for the era as well. Let me dig up some older designs to help you out. And lastly, draft is too deep. Try SpringSharp, it'll help!

Your Best bet is to use the Guns from the USS South Carolina BB-26, and take a look at the RN designs as well as the USN designs from the era, you'll see that most ships only used Twin Mounts, and 8" guns were used only on cruisers, and around 1912 was the transition from 12" to 13.5" & 14" guns respectively for the RN and USN.

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