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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 12th, 2012, 3:45 pm
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DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF FINLAND 1920-1945


During the Revolution, Finland was ruled by the revolutionary deputy committee, called “People’s Delegation (Kansanvaltuuskunta) and the executive power rested upon the Supreme Workers council that had presentation from the Social democratic party, the main trade unions and from the red guards. People’s Delegation was led by Kullervo Manner who remained as the Finnish supreme leader until 1934, although the Nominal head of the state was Edward Gylling from 1920 to 1935. The Finnish Social Democratic Party was dissolved in its last congress in 1919 during the height of the Civil War and subsequently replaced with Communist Party of Finland (Suomen Kommunistinen Puolue; SKP) , while some opposition (Led by Väinö Tanner) remained with the old party that was declared as counter revolutionary and its members were persecuted as traitors. Tanner eventually fled to Sweden along with the remaining of the old Monarchist Government.

The constitution of Red Finland and the official name as Democratic Republic (Kansanvaltainen Tasavalta) was officially accepted in the first assembly of the People’s Congress (Kansaneduskunta) in 12th of May in 1920

Recovery from the war and revolution period took long time both socially and economically. Lot of the former elite, nobility and upper class had fled to west (Or Japan in case of Far East) including many of the intelligentsia. The war-economy and the revolution had torn down both agricultural and industrial production into fraction what they used to be in 1914. Key elements of Finnish revolution had been the socialization of the banks, heavy industrial dynasties and freeing the tenant farmers from their land lords and confiscating the lands of noble land lords. Generally the revolution had not interrupted on the middle class and the small business, as well as not against peasants themselves as a class, though bulk of the counter-revolutionaries became from these circles. The 1920 Constitution issued “workers councils” as way to control the economy and despite private land owning and owning of capital was not banned, all enterprises became de facto controlled by these councils, and thus by party cadres, though the Soviet concept of heavy government planning took long to adjust into more pragmatic Finnish system outside the heavy industry that wasn’t as prominent as in Soviet Union.

These policies brought the Finns often odds within the Marxist-Leninist purists in Comintern, and the early relationship of Finland and Soviet Union was a struggle between concept of Socialistic world order, where Finns most predominately supported each nations independent route to socialism and self-government, opposed by Trotskyist view of “world government” and all nations joining Soviet Union. In more pragmatic level, Finland signed its first “Treaty of Friendship, Co-operation and mutual co-existences” with Romanian Socialistic Republic as early as 1918 and this treaty constituted as the bulk of Finno-Soviet relationship up until 2nd world war. Soviet side often regarded Finland as their satellite, where as Finnish side prompted for alliance between two equal powers, despite the huge imparity between the countries. This position brought its share of friction, especially regarding Finnish policies among the Mongolian and Tuvian soviet Puppets that Soviets sometimes saw as an attempt to move them away from Soviet sphere of Influence into Finnish one. In 1929 Otto Kuusinen became the Finnish Secretary of Foreign affairs and largely due his personal influences, most confrontations inside the communist bloc were avoided.

By 1933 most major powers had recognized Finnish Democratic Republic; though the Finnish presence in international politics remained as small as it had been before. Finnish participation in Comitern actions was mostly done by Kuusinen and Yrjö Sirola, and predominately focused on causing communist uprising in Lithuania. First attempts of agricultural collectivization was conducted in 1932 which led to a series of dissident incidents and into failing agricultural production and general chaos among the rural areas as the government imposed price control over agricultural goods that eventually led to loss of income among many peasants. These cultivated in an open insurgency in little town of Mäntsälä, in Northern Uusimaa province. The rebellion was brutally crushed and blame was officially set for the counter-revolutionaries operating in Sweden, but in a secret party meeting, Kullervo Manner accused the soviet policies of Proletarian Dictatorship and generall Marxist-Leninist principles as cause of the incident and the collectivization was brought to halt, as the Party was well aware of the problems agricultural mismanagement could bring to Finland, which was already dependable of Soviet Food imports.

The ideological drift continued until 1934 when Kullervo Manner’s wife, Hanna Malmi again attacked the Soviet policies among them accused the Trotsky and Lenin from failing to oppose the rise of Fascism in Europe. Soviet Union answered with ultimatum to cut all relationships as well as indirect threads of wars, which led a more pro-comintern fraction of CPF to impose coup, where Malmi was moved from the central committee and expelled from the People’s deputy and assigned as Finnish Ambassador of Tuvian People’s Republic. When Manner himself didn’t support these actions, he himself was voted out from the Central Committee and Replaced by Yrjö Sirola. Manner became the head of Coal mine combinate in Vorkuta, Far Northern Urals.

Edward Gylling, a strong supporter of Manner and Malmi was also seated out from the task of Presidency and replaced with Hannes Mäkinen in 1935. During the crisis, Otto Kuusinen was send as the Finnish negotiator to Moscow to ease down the tensions and it is often claimed that he received the orders to initiate this coup directly from Trotsky and Stalin.

In Far East, the first post-civil war armed conflict took place in 1929, in Manchuria where Chinese warlords tried to expel the joint Fenno-chinese ownership of the Trans-Manchurian railway. The Rise of Japanese Empire and its occupation of Manchuria coused great deals of Concerns for Finland. The newly created Manchukuo puppet engaged series of clashes with Mongolia and with Soviet troops stationed there, thus increasing the tension among the Amur as well. First incident Between Japan and Finland became in 1937 along the Island of Kantsa (Kanchazu) on Amur when Japanese army sunk one Finnish gunboat and expelled Finnish troops from the Island. In August of 1938, much severe fighting begun around Lake Kaasa (Khasan), near Korean Border. Finnish border guards begun to fortify a hill in the western Bank of the Lake, supposedly claimed by Japan. Japanese forces initially drove Finnish units out from the hills, but after mobilization of the Finnish Far East Army under command of General Toivo Antikainen, and a resulting Finnish counter offensive drove Japanese out from the hills.

Internally, the Finnish relationship with Soviets begun to be fictitious. Finland did not actively participate in the Spanish Civil war, aside sending volunteers to the international brigades. Sirola died in heart attack in 1936, and after series of internal power struggle, Oskari Tokoi succeeds in power, in much of relief to Kullervo Manner and his supporters. Offically describing themselves as “Independency” fraction, tough labeled as “stubbornness” fraction by their opposition (Finnish term for Independency, Itsenäisyys rhyming with the term Itsepäisyys, eg. stubbornness). Under this fraction, Finland begun to take more and more steps away from subordinating into Soviet puppet hood, which by much was begun to be conducted by Stalin who gained more and more power in the Soviet hierarchy. Mostly the struggle was taken place inside Comintern, where Finnish stand called more open and decisive moves against Fascisms, most notably the German Nazis, where as the Soviet side often brought up this as disguised Finnish cultural chauvinism and seeking of restoring the former Grand Duchy’s borders.

In summer of 1939, Manchukuo and Japanese forces in Manchuria begun increased build ups against Finnish border. The Japanese “Strike North” fraction was eager to revenge the humiliation of the previous year and seek Casus Belli for invasion of Finnish Far East that it regarded easy target for strategic strike against inferior Finnish forces. The disputed “64 villages” , series of Manchu habited villages in Finnish side of the Amur river turned out to be the excuse for such armed conflict, when the Manchukuoan forces begun to support dissident actions among the ethnic Manchu’s and sending troops across the Amur to support the revolters in their fight against Finnish police and Border guard forces. Finnish internal troops were first dislodged, but after the Amur Flotilla and army units arrived, the Manchu troops were expelled. Japanese send more troops to the area, as well as their air units to drive away the Gunboats, and they re-entered to region once more.
This time Finland mobilized their whole Far Eastern Army, and after series of Battles in August, General Antikainen drove the Japanese across the Amur once again in 24th of August.

In Same day, Soviet Union published their Molotov-Rittendrop Non-aggression-pact with Germany that infuriated the Finnish leadership and caused lot of concern in regarding Stalin’s and Hitler’s actions towards Finland. The treaty’s secret clauses gave Eastern Poland to Soviets, but let Germans claim the Lithuania, that Finland regarded as part of its patrimony.
In fear of war in west brought Fins to negotiate peace in Far East, and after their prestigious victories, Japan and Finland signed their own Non Agression Pact, that led Japanese seek southern invasions instead of trying to challenge Finnish forces.

When German Invaded Poland, Soviet Union declared neutrality and occupied its share of the Polish soil. Finland begun to transfer its troops from Far East to Europe, and mobilize its forces in slow pace. Meanwhile, the Fascists Quisling fraction had rose power in Scandinavia, and in Treaty of Copenhagen in late August of 1939, it agreed to close the Baltic Straights in favor of German policies. This lead to Finnish fear of Joint Scandinavic-German invasion of Finland after Poland. Finland begun to pressure Lithuania to give it military bases and allow Finnish troops to be positioned in its soil. This pressure lead Lithuania yielding, and by early 1940, when German’s attention had turned westwards, Finland conducted coup in Riga, effectively leading to Annexation of the country back in Finnish rule. Awhile Finnish part feared Stalin to conduct actions against Tokoi’s power, but the Japanese invasion of Soviet controlled china took away the change to conduct such operation. Finnish relationship between Soviet Union however remained almost hostile until the Operation Barbarossa, when all Fascist Nations attacked Soviet Union as well as Finland.

Germans and especially Scandinavia were not pleased of the Finnish annexation of Lithuania, and while Hitler might have been able to persuade Fins to join in attack against Soviets, they choose to drive away Fins from Baltic and invade the European possessions of Finland, while promising the Finnish-Proper and Åland to Scandinavia.
Though Finland was more aware of the Fascist invasion than perhaps Stalin was, it was still ill prepared to face such fierce force of the Blitzkrieg that had mauled French and Poland down in previous years.

German invaded in 22th of June in 1941 The Finnish defenses in Baltic included 34 divisions of the Baltic Front, mastered in two Armies. There was another 16 Divisions in Finnish proper against Scandinavia. The Finnish forces were not able to stop the German Army Group north, and after devastating defeats (that included loss of almost entire Finnish armored corps) It had to retreat from all of Baltics. After Germans crossed the Daugava (Väinäjoki) River, the Finnish defence line was prepaired in The lake Peipus to stop Germans taking the Capital at Pietari. These actions also failed and Germans pushed across the Narva River to the river Laukaa (Lugi) while Capturing Novgorod and crossing the River Volkhov. Meanwhile in 25th of July, Scandinavia declared war on Finland and begun invading the Ålands and advance in Lapland toward Finland-Proper.

Politically the invasion took toll on the Finnish Communist Party. Tokoi was ousted from the leadership and Otto Kuusinen took charge. He immediately reassured the old alliance with Soviet Union who was also under attack recognizing that Finland and Soviet Union can only survive the war in together as well as seeking all help available from western allies. A joint military leadership was organized, where the Finnish front was divided into Northern, Baltic and North-Western Fronts.

By December, Germans managed to push through all Finnish defense lines, and encircle Pietari with capturing of Pähkinälinna and the Southern Coast of Lake Ladoga and Advancing trough Karelian Isthmus toward River Taipale. Meanwhile the Scandinavians occupied Rovaniemi and tried to push towards Murmanni, but they were halted there before the winter. Finnish Fronts were now reorganized as the Isthmus Front in Karelia, the Pietari Front in the besieged Capital, and the Volhova Front along the river Volhova.

Finnish Capital and government moved to Archangelsk and the Besieging of Pietari became the most destructive siege of whole history, where 600,000 civilians died. The population of the Capital was 1.5 million in 1939, but it rose to about 4 million while refugees from Baltic and Novgorod begun fleeing toward the Capital away from Novgorod region. Initial evacuation plans by the Finnish army did not take account of the Capital to be besieged and the chaotic months precluding the siege also brought people from Finnish-Proper to mass into the capital in fears of Scandinavian landings. Most of Finnish navy was also trapped in the city and the Germans and Scandinavians occupied the Gulf of Finland from its Islands to control a maritime blockade as well. Finnish army was badly mauled in the Initial Barbarossa assault, and the losses to Air and Tank units were most severe and effectively halting changes of counter offensives in Finnish fronts. The vast Wilderness in Lapland front prevented Scandinavians to maneuver pass the few roads and railroads, and the warfare turned into sort of stationary guerilla warfare where the frontlines were stable only around the major towns and communication junctions, while raiding parties from both side ventured deep into each territory. In Baltic Seas, while the German heavy Units and Luftwaffe kept Finnish fleet trapped in

The Finnish Far East Army arrived Europe in December of 1941 but was put into defense of Moscow where they were arriving via the Soviet Siberian railway instead of the Finnish one in North. Basically all of Finnish war effort in WWII focused on breaking the siege of Pietari. In following years, Fins tried to break the German Lines from Karelian Isthmus and from the Volkhov. in winter of 1942, while the land offensives fails, Fins manages to capture Suursaari and Lavansaari Islands with invasions cross the ice with land units. In the Following summer, Kriegsmarine and Scandinavian naval units cannot blockade the city’s maritime approaches as well and almost 1 million civilians are evacuated via sea lanes, while almost 100 000 dies in German bombings of these shipping’s that are conducted with every possible vessels. Initially Finnish Army is commanded by Civil War heroes Marshall Ali Aaltonen and Emil Haataja, but Aaltonen died during the retreat from Tallinn in the Juminda mine barrages and Haataja is replaced with Akseli Anttila, the Defence secretary from Kuusinen’s Administration. The city’s defences were commanded by General Tuure Lehén and the Volhavan Front by General Eylf Matson and Toivo Antikainen was in charge of the Karelian front.


In early 1943, the Operation Kipinä (Spark) General Antikainen managed to capture the City of Siestarjoki, at Gulf of Finland shore and advance trough coastal railroad to the besieged city, and the Finnish forces manages to keep this land line open through the summer of 1943. Towards January 1944, the Finnish army had managed to building up its forces and creates new armored formations as well as building up strong Air Forces together with Soviet Air armies that were operating in Finnish fronts. The Strategic Operation No.1 Was the Finnish campaign to end the siege of the City all together by attacking the German armies in Karelian Isthmus. The operation manages to trap the Germans in their own encirclement after The Volhovan Front manages to Capture Pähkinälinna and cross the Neva towards the City and With simultaneous attack from the Karelian Isthmus, the German armies are destroyed and the siege broken. In the following summer, Finnish army first invades the Åland Islands as well as pushes up north in Lapland which together with a pro-Western Coup in Scandinavia to outset Quisling leads to a Scandinavia to seek peace with Finland and the allies. Another offensive in the Baltics drives Germans first from Pihkova and Novgorod back to the Baltic provinces, and the later summer/autumn further pushes the Germans away from Estonia and Livland, Encircling Large German army to the Kurland and allowing Finnish troops to enter East-Prussia. After one year of great success, the Finnish army was exhausted by the three, the Pietari Front is officially dismantled and most of its units are allocated to reoccupying the Lithuania and as well as prepare to be send back to Far East. The Volhovan Front is renamed 1st Baltic Front and took control over the Kurland Siege, where as the Isthmus Front and the Finnish troops from Lapland make up the 2nd Baltic front that continues advance to Germany’s northern Coast along with Soviet final invasion of Germany.

In Yalta Conference, Finland and Soviet Union had agreed to begun land war in Manchuria against the Japanese forces. Finland initially sough of capturing Manchuria, but the Allied only agreed on restoring the pre-1905 borders, with returning the southern Sakhalin, Kuriles and Port Arthur. The Finnish invasion forces included 24 divisions and together with the Soviet forces from Mongolia Attacked Manchuria two days after USA had dropped atomic bomb to Hirosima leading into rapid Japanese capitulation. The numerically Strong Japanese army in Manchuria offered little resistance to the Finnish troops that were mostly veterans from the Pietari Front.

In Europe, after surviving the German atrocities and the Nazis plan to replace “Asiatic and Mongol-breed” Finnish population with their own “superior” race with plans to starve the Finnish and Soviet population to death, together with the horrors of the besieged Pietari, the general consensus among all finnish politicians, military and the general population sought revenge. Finnish delegate in the Allied planning pushed for “destroying Germany as nation for good” and that East-Prussia as whole was to be given to Finland. Ultimately Finland only gained the city of Konigsberg (renamed as Sirolankaupunki) and its surrounding areas, rest of the East-Prussia going for Poland. Finnish 2nd Baltic Front tried pillage as much “war-reparations” as possible, and after the German capitulation, Finland and Soviet Union demanded huge war reparations in terms of payment by the East German Government and by confiscating large deposits of materials, sometimes including even complete factories, that were dismantled and transferred back to Finland.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 13th, 2012, 3:51 pm
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Cold War Era 1945-1989

World War II left USA and Soviet Union as the predominant superpowers. Old powers France and UK were weakling and mainly went on siding with the USA to form somewhat loose “western powers” to counter Soviet Union.

The rivalry between the remaining superpowers culminated in era called the “Cold War”, which was already seen in the division of Europe into western and Soviet sphere's. Soviet Union build up communist puppet-regimes in Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia and actively supported communist and socialist forces around the third world, which were struggling to free itself from the declining colonial powers. With the event of atomic weapons, both Soviet Union and USA begun massive military build-up and arms-race.

In Asia, Soviets actively pursued their own “anti-colonial” ideology which aimed to create united China and Indonesia from the Soviet republics in the old Roman colonies. In China, the communist managed to win the Kuomintang and established People's republic of China in 1949 and in similar success was gained in Indonesia in the next year. In 1950, Finnish puppets of North Korea decided to attack the US controlled South Korea which started the Korean war. Soviets were reluctant to involve openly, but sent material help to the communist forces. Chinese also sent voluntary troops to help out the North Korea. The war resulted in truce in 1953 without major changes in the borders.

In the Middle East, the former Turkey and Ottoman empire lands in Arabia were divided into new, mainly British dominated Arab states. However the Jews were given a independent homeland in Palestine which infuriated the Arab people living in the area and in neighbouring countries. The tension escalated into war in 1948 where Israel managed to win the Arab coalition. Soviet Union had formed new Socialistic Republic of Egypt, a new puppet instead of formal part of the Soviet Union.

Stalin dies in 1953 and he is followed by Nikita Khrushchev who manages to cede all powers by 1956. Khrushchev denounces Stalin's achievements during his reign and accuses him of dictaturism and despotism. Khrushchev eases the tension towards the west and starts minor reforms inside the Soviet Union.

In Egypt, after the Soviet crip is loosen, Gamal Nasser raises to power in 1952. He starts to advocate strong Arab nationalistic ideology and starts to criticise Soviet Union as a colonial power. In 1956 after Soviet Union's bloody intervention into Hungary to crush anti-government and anti-soviet revolts Nasser decide to act. He occupies the Suez Canal which is still firmly in Soviet control. Due the infamy caused by the Hungarian uprising, Soviets are cautions to attack against Nasser fearing that it might spread the dissent towards Soviet rule in other satellites. Soviet standstill is seen as a great victory to Nasser and his confidence gains more high ground. His next move is Israel, against which he starts to build up. Soviet Union have however made a pact with Israel which would mean Israel to attack Egypt which in return would give the Soviets a casus belli to invade Egypt in order to restore the stability in the area. The plan works and Israel attacks Sinai and effectively destroying Nassers army. Soviet troops land in Suez and they regain the canal. In the aftermath, Soviets expelled Nasser from Egypt and put Egypt back to being a merely a puppet. Relations with Israel deteriorated soon after the war as Israel’s were reluctant to leave Sinai which they thought would be given to them in return of favour. Only the threat of war from the Soviets forced Israel troops to withdrawn from the peninsula.

The following years saw rapid increase of the arms race between the Soviets and the West. The situation escalated in Cuba in 1962 when after failed US attempts to overthrow Fidel Castro led Soviets to station Ballistic Missiles in Cuba. This led USA to blockade Cuba and treating with military invasion if the Soviet missiles aren't being taken way. Soviets countered by sending their fleet to the area but diplomatic solution was reached before the crisis escalated. Soviets withdrew the missiles and USA promised not to invade Cuba as well as withdrew their own Ballistic missiles from Italy and Persia.

Relations with fellow communists in China deteriorated after ideological differences between Mao and Moscow. Soviets pulled all assistance to China in 1961-62. Both sides begun to fight over the souls of socialistic movements around the world. The rivalry was first put in effect in the Vietnam War where both Chinese and Soviets actively tried to get North Vietnamese into their sphere of influence.

Due the failures with the Chinese affair and the Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev was overthrown from power in 1964 and followed by Leonid Brezhnev.

In Middle East, Nasser fled from Egypt to Syria in where his huge popularity among the Arab people managed to him to cede power and eventually form the United Arab Republics which was Syrian, Lebanese, Jordan (after a coup in 1965) and Iraq's federation. Nasser continued his strong anti-Israel policy. As Soviets were worried about Israelis growing power and close proximity of the Suez canal, Soviets started to sell arms to UAR. Alarmed of the possible invasion of the UAR, Israel launches pre-emptive strike on UAR in 1967. The so called Six Day war is decisive victory for Israel which manages to destroy UAR's fighting ability. Israel occupies Golan Heights and the West Bank.

In Czechoslovakia, series of political reforms are started in 1968. This alarmed the Soviets for anti-socialist tendencies being raising in the Eastern European nations. In spring 1968, Soviet and other Warsaw Pact country troops invaded Czechoslovakia causing a lot of international condemning.

In Asia, Finnish and Chinese border dispute escalates into series of armed clashes in 1969 and the Soviet-Chinese relations are worsened even deeper.

In 1970 Nasser dies and the new UAR regime is more favourable towards Soviet Union. With newly acquired soviet weapons, UAR attacks Israel in 1973 in order to revenge the humiliation of the Six Day war. This time, for Soviets surprise Egypt participated in the war on UAR side. After initial success, Israel manages to halt the UAR attack and is quickly gaining an advantage in the battlefield. Egyptian troops are surrounded in Sinai and Israeli troops advancing over the canal.

The initial reaction from the Soviets is to pressure both sides into cease-fire. USA is in similar position but strong internal pressure due Israel being the one being attacked to put more pressure on the soviets. Soviet Union feels it intolerable for Israeli presence in Sinai and threatens to join the war on Egypt side if Israel doesn’t retreat. USA threatened to join the war if Soviets would.

Soviets set up a blockade to Israel and starts mobilizing troops to be sent to Egypt and Syria. USA saws soviets unwilling to back down and orders Israel to retreat from Sinai. In the later peace negotiations Israel is forced to leave West Bank and Golan heights and UAR and Egypt both forced to recognize Israel and it's borders. The aftermath saw the dissolution of UAR when the Arab-socialism and nationalism was seen failure in the Israeli matter. New emerging independent states from UAR, notably Syria and Iraq denounced their recognition of Israel.

During the 1970's Soviets were involved to help various socialistic regimes in Angola and in Ethiopia-Somali war supported Ethiopia. In 1979 Soviet troops invaded Afghanistan after the newly formed socialistic government had fell into troubles with Islamic insurgents. The war dragged on for 9 years consuming huge amount of Soviet resources with little gains to contain the islamist. Soviet Union eventually pulled out from Afghanistan in 1988.

Soviet - Chinese tension rose in 1979 when China attacked Vietnam. After few weeks of fightings China withdrew as it was not able to push trough the Vietnamese defences and Soviets were building up massive intervention operation for Vietnamese support.

Leonid Brezhnev dies in 1982. He is followed by Yuri Andropov and after his death Mikhail Gorbachev in 1985. Under the Brezhnev era, Soviet economy begun to stagnate and corruption and heavy bureaucracy were plaguing the soviet system. Gorbachev stated reforms to change the course of Soviet economy by opening the society and reducing the governmental control over production. These changes however worked against the Soviet system and the stagnated economy become to dive into chaos. The opening of the society brought many of the governmental mismanagements into public knowledge and thus harming the Soviet Government's popularity among the people.

As the economics fell, Soviet Union was unable to cope with the massive expenses of its arms race against US and supporting and overseeing vast amount of client states. As Soviet Union were forced to loosen its control over the East European puppets, the local communist governments begun to loose power and eventually were overthrown in all Warsaw Pact nations aside Finland. In 1989 Communists had lost power in Poland, Hungary, Spain and in Czechoslovakia. Cold War was in effect over as Soviets were no longer capable to counter west in the worlds politics.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 13th, 2012, 4:39 pm
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With this post, does that mean we will finally see some drawings?

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 13th, 2012, 5:16 pm
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Not for long shot...theres gonna be some more historics and then some more detailed writings about the naval devolpment and stuff before the ships;)

Bare with me, I'm eager as you you get the ships down here but i want to do this properly and not leave it half way finish.

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theres gonna be some more historics and then some more detailed writings about the naval devolpment and stuff before the ships
Give that man a beer! First background then ships.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 13th, 2012, 7:58 pm
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So far the background has been very detailed and well writen.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 14th, 2012, 12:29 pm
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DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF FINLAND 1945-1992

After WWII, the new world order begun to emerge with considerable part of Eastern Europe falling into Soviet Sphere of Influence, as well as China, North Korea and Indonesia. Local revolutions sparked also in former French Indochina and British Malaya and the Communist Bloc became seen as the “enemy” by the western Alliances almost immediately after the hostilities ended. In Europe, Finnish army contributed 3 divisions to guard the eastern German occupation zone (thought Finland was not given its own zone, but had to settle in stationing inside Soviet Zone.) and many of the newly emerging People’s democracies sought their role model from Finnish concept of “people’s republic” rather than from Soviet State system, despite the politicians were firmly Moscow controlled and despite Kuusinen’s former strong position and leadership in Comintern, Only genuinely “Finnish” puppet state emerging was the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea, which leader Kim Il-Sung was at that time serving in Finnish Far East army and handpicked by Finnish secret police to set up the communist government, albeit his political indoctrination was purely Maoist from Chinese Communist Party.

Internally, Otto Kuusinen had emerged himself as the supreme and undisputable leader after the war, and partially became surrounded by sort of cult of personality that often diminished other great individuals who helped to guide the nation to victory. Economically and demographically Finland suffered great deal after the horrors of the war, and to overcome these losses Finland begun to invest heavily on developing its heavy industry and properly exploit its natural resources, rather than just operate as resource pool to the larger and more advanced Soviet industries. In terms of relationships inside the new communist bloc Kuusinen was able to conduct pragmatic stand to conduct as much independent policies as possible, without deliberately provoking Stalin by defying his own growing cult of personality and leadership among the Communist movement. Finland was founding member of United Nations and given permanent seat in the Security Council.

After Communist victory over the Chinese Civil war in 1949, Finland kept formally allying Mao, withdrawing its troops from Manchuria and even handing out the Port Arthur to China in 1950 after Soviet suggestion to ease the emerging tensions between Kuusinen, Stalin and Mao. Ideologically Kuusinen and the leading Finnish ideologist, Tuure Lehén became first to publically criticize Mao’s “peasant Marxism” though much of these writings were kept out until the end of the decade to avoid the open drift. Finland boycotted UN meetings due the inclusion of Taiwan as the Chinese seat in the organization. In 1950, Kim Ill-Sung attacked South Korea which had remained as US occupied puppet in the southern parts of the peninsula. After US and other western nations intervened, Kuusinen correctly calculated the ill changes of Finland to sustain a war against Americans without Soviet support that Stalin refused to give. Finnish advisors operated with Koreans and the Chinese volunteers that helped to rebel the UN forces from annexing Kim Il-Sungs regime.

After Stalin’s death Kuusinen remained in power, but did not attempt challenging Khrushchev in the global leadership, unlike Mao. Finland kept reforming its industries and after mid 1950’s begun even more increasing investments to develop the infrastructures among its vast northern wastelands, In order to incorporate the relatively prosperous and non-war torn Far East to the more populous West by allocating lots of new industries in the Siberian towns to prompt growth in those regions.
Finland signed the Warsaw Pact treaties together with the Soviet controlled eastern European nations and in strategically wise begun to achieve more control over the Pact’s northern Flank, particularly in its operations in Baltic Sea. Kuusinen supported Soviets in crushing of the Hungarian revolters in 1956 and Finnish advisors helped to establish the militarized border guard units in DDR, much to the model of similar Finnish troops in Far East. By Late 50’s the drift between Khrushchev and Mao became inevitable, and Kuusinen, though already eldery state and actively retired from everyday governing, took the leading ideological role by denouncing Maoism in series of critical writings. By 1959, China and Finland had managed to cut down all ties, leading similar position with Peking and Moscow by 1961.

Otto Kuusinen died of liver cancer in 1964. He was replaced in the role of President by Tuure Lehén and after series of collective leadership, by Aarne Saarinen as the Chairman of the Communist Party. Eldery Lehén stepped down from presidency in 1968 being replaced with Taisto Sinisalo. Both Lehén and Kuusinen’s daughter, Hertta Kuusinen (who was also Lehén’s ex-wife) remained as senior finnish politicians and much beloved figure heads to the population, while Saarinen/Sinisalo duo begun leading Finland trough the next decade. This leadership was characterized by internal rivalry between more independent-line Saarinen, who was almost seen as role-model for the Moscow free Euro-communist, and by strictly proto Marxist Sinisalo, who was more into position of leading Finland as model nation for the Easter Block. Saarinen’s polices were marked by heavy emphasis to civilian infrastructure and production, while Sinisalo was more aligned with the military establishment. The increased tension between Chinese lead to a long project for acquiring nuclear weapons to Finnish “national” control, which became a doctrine to establish Finnish nuclear strike capacity that could be used in case of war with China as force multiplier compared to the massive numerical imparity between the two nations in Chinese favor. After the Chinese nuclear tests in 1964, Finland reguested Soviet Union to conduct nuclear strikes against Chinese facilities. After turning these down, serious plans were made to use conventional forces to neutralize the Chinese nuclear thread, while the Finnish generals and marshal’s begun actively lobby domestic nuclear program for military purposes. Finland had already build world’s first nuclear powered Ice Breaker and had working Soviet build Nuclear power plants.

In 1967 chinese cultural revolutionaries attacked Finnish embassy in Peking. In March 1969 Chinese military invaded the Tamaani Island (Zhenbao) on the Ussuri River in Far East. Over 30 Finnish Border Guards were killed. Finnish forces replied with bombing Chinese military positions in Manchuria and reinvading the islands with heavy armor units. These conflicts took place together with Soviet tensions in Uighur border provinces in eastern central Asia and sparked tensions that were near to explode into full scale war. During the height of the conflict in Tamaani Island, Finland again requested nuclear strikes to China from Soviets. These tensions were scaled down after Saarinen visited Peking secretly in the next autumn, but the military buildup remained strong trough rest of the Cold War.

These events further increased the “General’s” influence over Finnish politics and emphasized Taisto Sinisalo’s position as the premier leader.
In Europe, Finland was the loudest spokesmen of the “dissolution of military alliances and withdrawal of American forces from Europe” policy, though nominally following Soviet Lead in keeping the Warsaw Pact states in line. The series of troubles in Poland, Hungary and in Czechoslovakia as well as the Sino-Soviet split had strengthed Finland’s position as the most loyal Soviet Ally and had earned great deal of trust and freedom from Moscow’s eyes. This was most clearly seen in the Finnish nuclear program, which begun after the 1969 events and was helped by Soviet technological transfers so that in 1974, Finland conducted its first nuclear detonation in Siberia. Finnish official nuclear policy remained as “defensive gesture outside of European ideological confrontation” and all the nuclear armed missile units were stationed in Far East.

The increased military influences in the government saw Finnish paratroopers participate in the crushing of Prague Spring in 1968, and Finnish military advisors worked in Vietnam, supporting the Ho Chi Min’s regime struggling against the South Vietnamese and Americans. The 1970’s marked also first signs of Finnish oil production when the Komi oil fields, discovered in 1960’s were taken into production and geological surveys found even more such deposits in the Ob river basin together with excessive natural gas reserves. By 1980 Finland was the world leading nation in Forrest industries, and had build impressive fleet of Nuclear powered icebreakers to utilize the North-east passage trough Arctic waters for both global trade route as well as domestic magisterial route to further exploit the Siberian regions. Finnish heavy industry had also established itself as being able to self-sufficiently benefit from domestic coal, iron and other natural mineral resources. and was focusing mostly on Shipbuilding and heavy machinery production, especially in fields of paper mills and other forestry industry products.

In 1970’s Finnish military operated in Angola and In Ethiopia in support of the local pro-Soviet regimes often providing leadership and special operators to the Cuban forces that usually consisted the bulk of these expeditionary units.

The 1980’s saw Finnish economy to prosper unlike that of Soviet Union and other Eastern Europe, most to the heavy investments in the oil and natural gas industry begun to paying off. The Finnish oil company Neste had emerged from small collectively owned trustee of the local workers into largest company in Finnish economy, and its nationalization was done in progress that lead many of the small level economical leaders into relatively high positions inside the Finnish government. Both Sinisalo and Saarinen remained in power, while age was driving both down. The Independency fractions became more aligned with the economical sector, which growth was halted 1987-88 period, mostly because of US Reagan administrator’s attempts to harm Finnish imports to European nations, and the Soviet Economical stagnation hampered Finnish trade with its biggest trading partner. The Sinisalo’s fraction became more and more aligned to the military, where the Soviet Perestroika and Glasnost were shown and inacceptable to the ideologically orthodox Sinisalo, while the Saarinen’s fraction kept itself alienated from all “Moscowian” influences.

The westernization and liberation movement from Eastern Europe landed In the Lithuanian population during the end of the decade leading first into series of peaceful protest beginning from 1988 that lead into series of negotiations with the Lithuanian resistance movement to gain political power. The Finnish communist party had no means of giving Lithuania away, but nevertheless the liberation movement gained control of the province’s autonomic government and declared independency In March 1990. Finland did not at first acknowledge the declaration, but also did not attempt to military resolve the issue, since Gorbatsev’s Soviet Union was begun to show series signs of incompetency and fractures that had lead many of the Hard line communist leaders among Eric Honecker together with Taisto Sinisalo to even plot coup together with Soviet Hard-liners. Once Honecker’s DDR became crumbling down, the political situation in Finland also faced political pressure to end the Communist single-party rule.

The Finnish leadership however maneuvered differently. Lithuania was placed on economical blockade that lead into dissidence among its ethnic Polish and Finnish immigrant population, escalating in riots and street fighting between Finnish and Baltic population in January 1991, that gave Finland Casus Belli to send special forces and heavily armed Police units to restore peace and de facto restore Finnish communist rule. These lead to several civilian deaths and series of riots in Riga and Vilnuss that thus resulted even more police and military units send to Lithuania in order to restore peace. By spring time, the province was in almost emerging into state of civil war, and since the Finnish leadership saw all military operations to suppress the rebellion unaffordable, and after series of negotiations with the Lithuanians, Finland officially recognized Lithuanian Independency. The former East Prussian parts in Finnish rule around the Sirolankaupunki remained in Finnish control however, since their population was predominately Finnic origin. Taisto Sinisalo resigned from the party leadership after these events and was replaced with reformist Arvo Aalto. Aarne Saarinen resigned also shortly and was replaced as the Party leader by Heljä Tammisola.

The new regime initiated series of reforms in Gorbatsovs model, but was careful not to refer into anything that could have been seen as stepping down by the party itself. The economical projects included partially to allow foreign investments and privatization as well as dismantling the large government corporations such as the VALMET of the metal industry, and the Neste, from oil-and-gas industry, much in against the leadership of these organizations that were enjoying great political power. The new regime found itself also in odds with the Military by initiating cuts to the military expenditures as well as criticizing the nationalistic propaganda that much of the military leadership conducted as to explain for the Lithuanian events. The alleged atrocities against Finnish ethicalities by the Balts were over exaggerated and the general opinion was clearly manipulated to turn the difficoulties and the breaking of Soviet empire as signs of western efforts to dismantle the Finnish nation into pieces by separating Baltics and Far East from the central rule. The Lithuanian events were seen as foreign military defeat rather than domestic political crisis and lot of ethnic hatred generated between the Balts and Fins during this period, most notably inside the newly independent state. The military orientated hard liners gain popular support in Sirolankaupunki and in Far East, where the thread of foreign invasion was closes to be realistic thread rather than paranoia.

In August, the Similary minded Hardliners in Moscow organized coup against Gorbatsev. In Finland, similar “August group” begun to organizing itself around Yrjö Hakanen (Sinisalo’s political Secretary) and General Mattila, the Commander of Finnish Far Eastern Army and hero of the 1969 border war. Closely following the situation in Soviet Union, the Finnish regime hesitated in many decisive actions and popular dissent begun to grow, to which the Interior Deputy, Aimo Ventilä, part of the “August group” issued unilateral actions to increase police presence in streets and issuing curfew in major cities in European side of Finland. These caused even more friction inside the government and as the political leadership remained indecisive, the popular atmosphere begun to spread with fear of internal upheaval and coup. Inside the regime, fierce struggle had begun from the loyalty of the military and police, and despite Deputy Venttilä was sacked from the government, the reformist were unable to find loyal replacements as the August group begun pressure military officials not taking political administration roles unless several issues inside the defense policy and military economy was solved. Like the August group had anticipated many rejected this sort of political motivated process and withdrawn completely from the decision making, and the remaining was mostly pro-hard liners and followed the conspiracy’s lead. In face of political crisis, an emergency party meeting was called in early September but it resolved after the whole central committee was given no confidence motion by the party congress. This lead to resigning of the Aalto and Tammisola, but after the former gave public speech to claim the events as coup and assuring people to gather in the streets, she was arrested and martial law was imposed to whole nation and the August fraction begun to move to power. The Central committee did not however resign and since the August fraction had not numeriocal superiority in its seats nor courage or will to resist the almost sacred institution of whole communist hierarchy, a stalemate ensured and the government, central committee and increased amount of profilic members of the reformists as well as the August factionists entered into negotiations in Hotel Karelia in Pietari for almost three weeks. After these negotiations, it was planned to establish a “National salvation committee of Finnish socialism” to work as internment government and to establish Finnish People’s Democratic Alliance (Suomen Kansan demokraattinen liitto, SKDL), that would include The Communist Party as well as any other organization to be allowed to participate in the parliament elections that were scheduled in early 1992. This was largely seen as compromise to avoid full confrontation between the reformists and the hard liners and to stabilizate the nation and allow more moderate and controlled reforms in the political and economical System.

In the end, Communist Party managed to keep majority inside the SKDL and Yrjö Hakanen was elected as the General Secretary of the Party. The Presidency position was “given” to the reformist and was first given to Class Anderson in 1992, who was an ethnic Swedish from Åland.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw PactPosted: April 22nd, 2012, 11:59 am
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Around the time when the German unification became apparent, a group of high level Soviet party members as well as the leadership of KGB begun to conspiring the overthrown of Mikhail Gorbachev. The conspirators feared that Gorbachev's control over the Soviet Union was derailing and that the country would collapse into chaos and end the communist party rule over the union. It was feared that the whole realm could be dissolute into group of smaller nations with foreign interventions trying to cede the ethnically non-slavic areas in Central Asia which contained big portion of Soviet Union's natural resources and were already in the eve of complete anarchy and civil war due ethnic violence and separatist tendencies.

Window of opportunity became in July 1991 when Gorbachev was hospitalized due unknown illness which disabled the premier from governing. The conspirators started rumours that Gorbachev was attempted to assassinate by group of conservative generals who were opposing the reforms. The conspirators managed to divert the population to think that there was a coup taking place against Gorbachev and incited the people to mass demonstrations and stopping the coup while at the same time the KGB was arresting separatist politicians in the soviet republics including Moscow SSR president Boris Yeltsin.

By August the conspirators have ceded the power behind the curtains in Romania, Moscow, Ukraine, Siberia and Ural-Volga SSRs and felt they were strong enough to start more open actions. Andrei Zhekelenko, president of Romanian SSR and leader of the conspiracy step into public and declared martial law and dissolution of the supreme council of Soviet Union and announced new “emergency council” build around the presidents of the SSRs taking over the power temporarily and drafting up new constitution and political stabilisation pact to end the nearly chaotic state of the Union.

Zhekelenko and the Emergency council continued to finish the “New union treaty”, plan started by Gorbachev which lessened the federal power of the Soviet Union and gave more autonomy to the representative republics. Referendum was held in all republics in June and most of the people supported the treaty. Referendum was being boycotted in Armenia, Georgia, Transylvania and in Albania which were in the route of declaring independence from the Soviet Union.

The Treaty was approved in December 24th 1991 in all republics aside Armenia (aside Anatolia which was ceded by Romanian SSR), Georgia, Transylvania and Albania which declared independence from the Soviet Union. Gorbachev resigned from all power and Zhekelenko was elected as the new president of the Soviet Union.

Situation inside the Soviet Union begun slowly stabilising. Zhekelenko focused his rule to improve and reorganising the economics from the chaotic state of Gorbachev reign. In effect it was mostly rationalising and readjusting the “market socialism” system and a lot effort was put on cutting down the black markets and corruption inside the government. These reforms gained Zhekelenko quite strong popularity and his pacifying charm as a statesman was welcomed change to the chaotical years of Gorbachev era.

In foreign affairs Soviet Union turned inside and started to advocate “non-interventionism” over foreign nations. Therefore many former soviet client states fell into western camp or into state of civil wars when Soviets were no longer supporting socialistic governments. Warsaw pact nations all had abandoned socialism aside Finland. The new non-interventionism was clearly evident of Soviet Union not taking any part of the Gulf War against Iraq by USA and to the bloody civil war of Yugoslavia. Soviet military machine was reduced and disarmament process was started together with USA.

The new post-cold war era brought deeper integration of European nations into EU as well as the former Warsaw pact states joining NATO. As Soviet Unions influence and power abroad had declined, the USA became far bolder in intervening affairs of sovereign nations, especially of those with significant oil reserves.

First inclinations of changes in the Soviets policy was the Nagorno-Karabakh war in 1997. The area was small mountainous enclave in Azerbaijan SSR with significant Armenian population. Dispute over the governance of the area has been evident since the early days of Soviet Union and escalated into violence in the chaotic years of Gorbachev rule. Since Armenian independence, Armenia has demanded the area being included into Armenia and most of the ethnic Armenians in the area wanted to break away from Azerbaijan SSR.

The Nagorno-Karabakh declared themselves independent and willing to join Armenia in 1997. Local Azerbaijan security troops were driven out from the area and Azerbaijan government stated that Armenian troops were aiding the local rebels. Soviet federal government demanded all hostilities to end and warned Armenia from intervening in the conflict. After the hostilities still kept going on and ever increasing reports of Armenian supporting the Nagorno-Karabakh rebels Soviet troops entered the conflict by occupying Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh. Despite strong international oppostion, Soviet troops remained in Armenia and under ambiguous circumstances the heavily Nationalistic Armenian government turned into pro-soviet during the years of occupation. Main Soviet forces were withdrawn in 1999 but continuing Soviet presence in Armenia remained and making Armenia de facto a soviet puppet state until it's offical return to the union in 2005.

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Zhekelenko begun to step aside from the politics during 1999-2000 mainly due health problems. He was followed by Vladimir Putin as a new premier of the Soviet Union in 2000. Putin was former FSB and it's predecessor KGB's agent and often regarded as a apprentice for the premier in later days of Zhekelenko's rule.

Where as Zhekelenko popularity was based on his rather calm and warm approach to matters, Putin started to build up his own personal status with heavy emphasis on the more harsh and aggressive ruler exspecially in foreign matters. Putin exploited rather boldly the growing neo-soviet nationalism and the feelings of inferiority and betrayal especially among military personnel. Riding on with the economical growth which was results of Zhekelenko's reforms starting to pay of, Putin begun to enjoy rather large and unusual popularity among the average soviet citizens.

One major shift in policy was the re-armament program where Soviet Union started to modernize and rationalize it's vast but outdated military machine. Almost 10 years of neglect and cap of new equipment being introduced to the army, airforces and navy ended. The new build up was mainly focusing on conventional weapons but it started to alarm certain factions in foreign countries. However especially the western and central European countries were coming more and more economically tied to soviet gas and oil production so no real counter move were seen towards the soviet re-militarisation.

In foreign affairs one of the main issue was the Chinese- Soviet co-operation pact called the Shanghai pact signed in 2001. It was epitome of years of secret negotiations and talks which finally brought the end of the 40 year drift between the communist powers. Although it wasn’t strictly a defence or military alliance, it allowed Soviet and Chinese to benefit from each others military technology and Chinese begun to purchase a lot of new soviet weapons and technology.

In USA the new soviet rise took place at the same time as the neo-conservative powers begun to cede power in US politics. As the hoped soviet collapse and freeing of the vast soviet energy resources didn't take place, US was forced to seek new routes for ensuring the resource and oil supply for it's economy. As the Soviet Union's re-emerge to the world politics was evident, USA begun quite bold and badly masked effort to establish it's power in Middle-East and Central Asia in order to have better standing point when the clash against the Soviets would take place.

The plan was masked as a “War on Terrorism”, based around series of terrorist attacks on US embassies around the world. Blame was set on Al-Qaeda and it's leader Osama bin Laden, a saudi born terrorist leader currently residing in Afghanistan. In 2001-2002 USA and it's allies launched an attack and invasion to Afghanistan to overthrown the Taliban rule which was harbouring Al-Qaeda. Ironically Talibans were direct descendants of the muhajeed rebels supported by USA during Soviet Afghanistan campaign. Now it was Soviet's turn to send weapons to the Taliban to fight against USA.

Despite USA was nominally controlling the Afghanistan, it faced the same bloody gurellian war which plagued the Soviet Invasion. That didn't however stop the US neo-cons which next step was Iraq. In 2002-2003 USA and UK begun their smear campaign against the Iraqi government in the UN with the claims of Saddam Hussein violating the terms of the 1991 war peace-agreement and harbouring and co-operating with the Al-Qaeda. Eventually Soviet and Chinese using their veto on UN security council put end of US warmongering against Iraq for now.

Soviet counter move against the increased US meddling in Middle-East was re-forming the ties with Ethiopia and Yemen. These countries were essential for Soviet control over the reach on the Indian Ocean. In the next following years USA and Soviet begun fierce battle over the souls of Middle East nations secretly behind the scenes.

In 2007 the neo-con power in USA begun to shake. The war of terrorism was being costly and it haven't gained that much success neither in it's official goal to destroy Al-Qaeda nor in the secret real goal to cede the oil of Iran and Iraq to US control. New presidential elections were closing and something had to be done to change the course. Iraq was chosen as a target once again but this time with different strategy. New mantra was Weapons of Mass Destruction which Saddam's regime was claimed to start rebuilding after the increased confidence over the US embarrassing defeat in the 2002-2003 smear campaign. Evidences over the Iraqi possion of WMD's were appearing and both in USA and UK an aggressive campaign to win the crowd to support the invasion into Iraq begun.

The evidences were much more “appealing” than in the previous smear campaign and thus the support for US claims were much higher in the UN. Confident that US would get enough support from it's allies, it begun to concentrate troops to the Persian Gulf.

Soviets knew the USA plan and knew that only way they could stop the US was to make sure that Iraq was on their camp. Supporting Saddam's regime was not a viable option as the already increased Soviet belligerence was harming the relations with the Western Europe. Soviets wanted EU to be less dependant from USA and forming a third world power to divide the previously unified “West”. Thus at same time when USA was planning direct and blunt military operation, Soviets planned to use the old trick of attacking from inside.

In early 2008 Soviets made a secret deal with Saddam that Soviets would support Iraq against USA possible attack. Soviet agents and advisor begun to move into Iraq. In official tone, Soviets started to slowly lean towards the general consensus in UN to force Iraq to let weapon inspectors to the country. USA and UK saw this as a Soviet weakness and un-determition to counter the US plans and begun to push even harder on their cause. The increased pressure from USA towards Iraq was used as a leverage to force Saddam to allow more and more soviet secret presence in Iraq.

Soviets begun to build up military presence in Egypt and Ethiopia as well as in the southern parts of Soviet Union in Anatolia. Time for action took place in September 8th in 2008 when the world was taken by surprise about the news of Saddam's assassination and new revolutionary regime claiming the power of Iraq. The new regime called Soviets to help to secure the order in the country and help to fight against the counter-revolutionary forces still loyal to the Saddam regime. Soviets answered and sent their own invasion army into Iraq facing no resistance whatsoever.

USA and UK were took completely surprised. Soviet move was completely uncounted and not anticipated at all. US intelligence failed to warn the leaders about the increased Soviet presence in Iraq. Soviet build up in their own land and Egypt was seen only as a provocational manoeuvring and not as a real plan for offensive.

US president George Bush jr. and his neo-con regime was facing a situation where their already slightly desperate act to put the focus on US economical problems into foreign adventure and final act of the war on terror was about to become the final blow against the whole neo-con movement and reign in the form of epic failure and humiliation. Thus USA had no other choice but to make the next move and try to seek out just how far Soviets were willing to go.

The ill-prepared and yet not fully munstered US and UK troops in Kuwait were ordered to move into Iraq and cede the oil producing areas in the south before Soviet troops arrives there. Officially USA denounced the new Iraq regime and rallied for “Iraqi Freedom” from Saddam's tyranny and the new communists uprising.

In 10th of September 2008, US marine troops were nearing the Majnood Oil field near Bashra which was been taken by the Soviet VDV troops. In around noon, Soviets intercepted US marine reconnaissance troops which issued Soviets an ultimatum to withdrawn from the Oil field immediately. Soviets refused and answered that any foreign or illegal Iraqi militants will be fired at if they try to move towards the Oil Field. In 14:05 US marine units attacked the Oil field and engaged into heavy fighting against the VDV units. The World War III had begun.

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