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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 3:54 pm
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I'm really not sure about Kullervo. It's a lot easier to delete an armored barbette (especially a 305 mm triple turret barbette) than it is to add one. I would have retained "B" turret and deleted "C" turret for aviation facilities, or would've redesigned the ship just right after being laid down.


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Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 4:37 pm
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Kullervo is based almost 1:1 to the real never-where project about converting Frunze into Battle Cruiser (only the firecontroll and AA differs)
The end result propably wouldnt have been that good ship in stability/seaworthines wise, and my Kullervo wasen't either.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 5:12 pm
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Truly impressive work!

Btw. Shall we understand that the "b-side template" (for the specifications of personal design/AU ships) is no longer standarized?


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Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 5:27 pm
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I dont think the B side has ever been that "standardised". No one really used it...I took the liberty of messing with them for the AU purposes, since this stuff wont get uploaded anyways....This is just a devolplment phase for them, I've yet to found that absolute formula for them.
(and if one notices, there isent "b" side, its all the same sheet with the ship and data)

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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 6:39 pm
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I dont think the B side has ever been that "standardised". No one really used it...
I used them, but I found it got to messy on the upload!

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(and if one notices, there isent "b" side, its all the same sheet with the ship and data)
This is hove the Template should be: Drawing above, with short information belowe. Thus you never need to look after the info sheet. So could you make an template suggestion of from that template you are using for your drawings.


But now those drawings are awesome!


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Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 27th, 2013, 7:23 pm
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Yea. Im planning to introduce these after this series is done...I just need to experiment little bit first for proper layout and so.

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Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 28th, 2013, 4:48 pm
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And then the Destroyers;

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Yes, I took the "easy" way out with these ;) ...for example the Noviks I didn't alter much aside small AA and flags from the orginals, the others varies mostly in redone finishing and bridges. Those who have followed my Finnish AU should be familiar with my complains how the destroyers of 30's have always been my achiless heel. After trying basicly all other general destroyer trends (british, american, german, swedish and italian) I decided, what the heck, I can just as well do the same things to the Soviet ones, and since by such they suited the "base" of this AU. (thought Im not planning to replicate OTL soviet navy 1:1 with this section of my AU)

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eswube
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 28th, 2013, 6:58 pm
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Still, a very fine work. :)


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eltf177
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 28th, 2013, 7:08 pm
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Very nice designs!


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sebu
Post subject: Re: Alternative Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact (Revisited)Posted: March 28th, 2013, 7:24 pm
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Fine ships indeed and great names :) Kombinaattipaimentolainen must be one of the most hilarious ship name here so far :lol:


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